Somehow when you hit the reply button the message seems to go back to the author and not the OSLIST. Weird! But anyhow. . .
ho Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: Harrison Owen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:41 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: Talking sticks and listening sticks I think the key is not what you call it, but how you introduce it. Historically, it is a "Talking Stick" so I don't think you can change that (but then again, why not?) -- Anyhow, when I introduce it I say something like "This is a Talking Stick. Whoever holds it may speak. Those who do not will listen. In either case, talking or listening will be done with respect." That said, everything seems to work out just like usual. And for whatever it is worth, I personally prefer a living branch (usually evergreen). A stick always seems a little on the dead side and more than a little male (not to say phallic). A fresh evergreen (pine, cedar) is softer, and has the added benefit of having sap, which when warmed by many hands runs a bit and smells good. In Rome, with the Israelis and Palestinians, I used an Olive Branch. I was worried that it might be a little over the top, but I guess I shouldn't have. Certainly made the point and did the job. Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Culhane Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Talking sticks and listening sticks Choosing the stick - when I first put the stick in the centre of the circle and invite people to pick it up if there is something they'd like to say, there's always that pregnant pause. I've never had anyone jump on the stick (yet!) like they sometimes jump on the markers at the beginning of day one. Some people pick it up reverently and carefully, and replace it just the same. Others pick it up like a loose football and toss it back when they're done. Some groups will only pick up the stick once, and it's a fairly solemn experience. With my group last week, there were some playoff-hockey jests made back and forth, several individuals holding the stick three and four times - yet they used the stick each time, no one speaking out of turn. Some hold it like a torch or a baton, tightly gripped in one hand. Others seem almost to caress it, noticing the texture and brailling it as they speak. Is the difference between a "talking stick" and a "listening stick" philosophical or semantic, Doug? Would I notice a difference were I refer to it as the latter? Would I and the attendees perhaps react with it differently if it were named differently? Phil Culhane -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Douglas D. Germann, Sr. Sent: April 26, 2004 11:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Summary of a recent single-day event Phil-- Sure, I'd love to talk about the listening stick! Tell us, please, what you mean by "choosing the stick?" :-Doug. Germann * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
