ps to my previous note...
we too (the group of us that saw the film) agreed that there was
nothing very
new in it - tho' I was still surprised it was made ie. getting some
ideas out more
widely

dunno about the JD Knight stuff, tho' the channelling woman (can't
remember
her name) certainly was not popular with one of our group who had read
her
books.

best part for me was the humour from the guy with the white hair ie.
taking just
a little less seriously

Romy


On 20 Sep 2004, at 14:23, Therese Fitzpatrick wrote:

What the bleep is definitely a 'commercially made film'.  The makers
have an
agenda, to be sure, but the people behind the film are film industry
professionals.  The marketing for this film, which is not backed by a
studio
and does not have normal film industry distributorship, is very savvy,
effective marketing.

I heard about this film on this list back in the spring.  It started
showing
in Seattle in the late spring and I saw it right away.  I am happy to
see
the ideas in the film getting out into the world but there was nothing
in
the film that was new to me.  I don't claim, of course, to have
advanced
knowledge of quantum physics but I've actually read a few books about
the
new physics.

This film actually made me uneasy.  After seeing it, I did a bit of
research
and it turns out that the people behind the film are all very serious
devotes of JD Knight, who channels an ancient spirit called Ramtha.  JD
Knight was a strong presence in the film, too.  I concluded, and this
is my
idiosyncratic, unprofessional and nonquantifiable opinion, that the
film is
actually JD Knight/Ramtha propaganda carefully spun with new physics;
that
the film is really about proselytizing JD Knight's ideas.

Is there something wrong with proselytizing JD Knight's ideas?  No,
not to
me.

I believe the people behind the film really do want to get out new
ways of
viewing reality.  I believe the science presented in the film has
support
from experts like the people in the film.  I even can accept that a
woman
named JD Knight channels beings from other realms of reality.

But there is something about hidden agendas that always leave me
uneasy.  I
am made even uneasier when people think the film is 'not commercial'.
The
people who made this movie intend for it to make money. . . isn't that
commercial?

Just thinking aloud.  If you read my thoughts and are irritated, I
don't
exepct anyone to agree with me.  I didn't mention the film on this list
after I saw it because of my uneasiness but now that it has popped up
again,
I felt like I had to share my thoughts.


>From: Joelle Lyons Everett <jleshel...@aol.com>
>Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu>
>To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
>Subject: Re: What the Bleep...?
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:18:17 EDT
>
>Marei--
>
>"
>What the Bleep. . ."   is not a commercially made film.   It
was
made
>independently by a group in Oregon, and initially was shown in a
few
theaters on the
>West Coast of the U.S.   Because it has been successful in those
few
places,
>they now are extending their distribution to many theaters in the
U.S.
(I think
>they are using a digital process for distribution, which makes it
affordable
>for smaller theaters.)
>
>So, it may be a while before it reaches Europe.   But if you know
someone who
>has a small theater in your area, maybe it could be arranged to
show it
>there.
>
>I've not seen it yet myself, as we have not been going to Seattle
very
often
>recently.
>
>Joelle Everett
>Shelton, Washington, USA
>
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