Masud, I guess you are referring TV as non-living in the physical sense...well, doesn't it all depend on how we define living versus non-living? :) Maybe I am taking your comment too literally...but here are some quotes that might be interesting...
"...dividing the universe up into living and nonliving things also has no meaning. Animate and inanimate matter are inseparably interwoven, and life, too, is enfolded throughout the totality of the universe. Even a rock is in some way alive, says David Bohm, for life and intelligence are present not only in all of matter, but in "energy," "space," and "time," "the fabric of the entire universe," and everything else we abstract out of the holomovement and mistakenly view as separate things." The Holographic Universe - Michael Talbot (page 50) "The distinction between organic and inorganic is a conceptual prejudice. It becomes even harder to maintain as we advance into quantum mechanics. Something is organic, according to our definition, if it can respond to processed information. The astounding discovery awaiting newcomers to physics is that the evidence gathered in the development of quantum mechanics indicates that subatomic "particles" constantly appear to be making decisions! More than that, the decisions they seem to make are based on decisions made elsewhere. Subatomic particles seem to know instantaneously what decisions are made elsewhere, and elsewhere can be as far away as another galaxy!" The Dancing Wu Li Masters - Gary Zukav (page 47) "Look at your hand. Now look at the light streaming from the lamp beside you. And at the dog resting at your feet. You are not merely made of the same things. You are the same thing. One thing. Unbroken. One enormous something that has extended its uncountable arms and appendages into all the apparent objects, atoms, restless oceans, and twinkling stars in the cosmos." The Holographic Universe - Michael Talbot (page 48) filiz every day is a good day -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Masud Sheikh Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:44 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: On self-organizing Hi Ralph, Perhaps I understand what you are saying, but am not sure, so let me ask a question. Is there need to differentiate between a TV and a human? They are both systems, and I categorize TV as a 'non-living' system. Take care Masud On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:39:03 -0500, Ralph Copleman <rcople...@comcast.net> wrote: >My vote goes to: > >All systems are self-organizing, and... > >There is no such thing as a non-living system. > >Ralph Copleman > * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist