Carol �C so wonderful to see you here online! And for those of you who have not met Carol, let me say she is a marvelous young Palestinian lady �C and mother. And most recently mother for a second time!!!
Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Carol Daniel Kasbari Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:34 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: 1st OS in Vietnam As much as it sounds far away, the Chinese problem of translating the "right" people is the same that I faced when I came to translate it to Arabic. And you will be surprised to know that everywhere I used OS in Arabic, I used the word "appropriate" to describe "the right people" because it sounds much more acceptable in my language. So I guess it will be the right appropriate word to use also in Chinese:) Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Harrison Owen <mailto:hho...@comcast.net> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam I just received this delightful note from Jorie Wu in Taiwan. As you will see Vietnam is now added to the OS space. Jorie is publishing the Chinese version of “The User’s Guide,” and her questions about the meaning of “right” (as in, “Whoever comes is the right people.”) tickled my onion (made me smile). Idiomatic language is devilishly hard to translate, and I suspect idiomatic (colloquial) English is the worst offender. My first reaction was to say something like, “all of the above,” but I knew that would create endless confusion and get me in a world of trouble. So I opted for “right” = “appropriate.” Sounded good to me. What do you think? Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, Maryland 20845 Phone 301-365-2093 Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -----Original Message----- From: Jorie Wu [mailto:jo...@open-quest.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:41 AM To: Harrison Owen Subject: 1st OS in Vietnam Dear Harrison, I just led a two half-day Open Space in Hanoi Vietnam. I believed this is the very first OS in this country. Gail and I were there to facilitate a strategic planning for an NGO- Compassion International. We used the OS for action planning. It was very well received and the participants-the social workers, learned the skills to take home with. In their planning, they already declared to use OS for other meetings. When coming up with Chinese translation for the 4 principles, we found many different versions used by different people for poster. Since we are translating the book, I'd like to see a consistency in the use of translation. The word' right " has different connotations in Chinese. Whoever comes is the "right" people. Is " right" in terms of right or wrong, appropriate or inappropriate, necessary, or should/should not? Which is closer to your meaning? Whenever it starts is the right time. Same question here. Please enlighten me. Thank you! Jorie Wu, �亲尚� IAF-Certified Professional Facilitator Open Quest Facilitation �_放智慧引�Э萍� T886-2-:2771-0164 www.open-quest.com 一切是我的�x�� 走在自已的路上,我看到�S盈而���@的人生~ * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist