i don't know either, but that's what i needed to hear,
thanks,
funda
----- Original Message -----
From: Shay Ben Yosef
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: IOA in Istanbul
Funda
i don't know the exect position I'd have.
for the time being put me on your list
thenks
Shay
----- Original Message -----
From: Funda Oral
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: IOA in Istanbul
OK Avner, thank you,
So those who want to be included in this project, which means
a) who just want to read and follow what is going on = silent ears and eyes
b) who want to take part in decision taking = who wants to participate
discussions and make comments
c) who want to be active= thinking about participating this event and
inviting people
d) who want to become partner = work in finding sponsors
e)
f)
g)
Please write to us so that we as organizing team in Istanbul can decide
what kind of organization we can
make here
I think, in one month i will make another mailing group which will be "IAO
Istanbul" and the discussions will continue there,
it is too tiring for me to write to 500 people and wait answers here.
Thanks,
Funda
not:Dominik (from Berlin) i would like to include you at least in the
discussion group
----- Original Message -----
From: avner
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: IOA in Istanbul
Dear Funda
It looks like a promising beginning
Count me in
Avner
----- Original Message -----
From: Funda Oral
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: IOA in Istanbul
Now the second chapter :
As some of you already know; we are planning to organize 3rd
Interactive Organizations Conference in Istanbul in
October or November 2006
The team responsible of this project for now is : Me, Jo and Michael
Our team in Istanbul now : Me, Sirin, Begum and Filiz
Who else want to join us : Karolina wants, Avner, Carol are you joining
us? and Bea? Boscop?
Here is a project suggestion for you : the OSTlisters, OST
Facilitators, OST funs, Consultants, anybody
Those who need futher explanation about what is an IOA can check the
Power of Spirit Book of Harrison.
or they can share their definition or stories...( such as "Improbable
Principles" that Phelim had written here once)
( Harrison, i was telling about OST and you to a public rekations
company here, they didin't like the fact that i was calling
you Harrisoni they found it too informal..but i keep saying like that )
My plan is to organize a series of OST meetings around these issues;
I am also writing the teams that i thought, please don't get offended
if yr name is or is not there, this is just
names in my mind, you can add or delete your name.
1- Religions, Cultures and Organization : how cultures and religions
affected the way we organize ourselves?
Harrison, Yawar, Eva, Karolina, Funda
2- Countries, Nationalities and Organizations (???) , Citizen
Participation
Juan Luis, Jo, Juliana, Constanza, Marina
3- How organizations affect our mind and bodies and vica versa , health
and IAO, body as an IAO
Marei, Begum, Gail, Richard, Chris
4- Why we can not be an IAO? what are the obstacles? physchological (
fears, emotions?, our need for security ), physical ( walls, conflict of
interests)
5- Relationships : gender issues, history, stories
Mia, Funda
6- Family as an organization? How we bring up our children, IA ???
7- Organizations and power, organizations and money issues,
distribution of health, accounting in an IAO
Holger, Lisa, Therese, Esther ( was it you who was coming to Istanbul
with your husband who ws accountant?)
8- IAO and MIS ( Gabriela Ender)
9- Art and IAO (stage, exhibitions) ( Phelim and my favorite theater
group here)
10-City plans, architecture
12- Judicial System as an IAO? ( Juliane Adler, Begum)
13- Power Authorities as an IAO?
14- Education system as an IAO ( Karolina, her school in Poland and my
school in Istanbul )
So officially it can be something like 5 days with 5 themes and
unofficially it can be a life long event.
The venue place in my mind is Ciragan Kempinsky Hotel; the best hotel
in Istanbul, on the bosphorus an old palace that is an hotel now
(Michael and Jo, i will take you there when you come, we will have a
dinner there, as i promissed a dinner on the bosphorus to Jo 2
2 years ago, they have vegeterian and everything)
Everybody now,
So what do you think? can we make a dish together? can we gather enough
money? interest?, can we join our efforts for that?
Would you help me with the wording of this project? Can we put all
these in a better format ?
For those who need some personal preparation for all these here are the
movies you can watch :
- Hable Con Ella
- Gegenst The Wall
- Crossing The Bridge
Lots of love,
Funda
----- Original Message -----
From: Funda Oral
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: Berlin Experience & Projects ın Istanbul
No single comment to the dish we are preparing with Filiz and some
other friends for you here, so i keep telling
1st my OST experience in Germany
I had the honor to assist Juliane Neumann last week in Vlotho at
Learning Exchange meeting of German Consultants.
It was a great experience as already language helped me to stay out
of the issues and the community and i was happy with that.
Juliane was a wonderful facilitator; perfectly invisible but present
to observe and hear everything, people actually thought that she was a
butterfly or an assistant.
Mia, another colleague in our team was also wonderful. She was very
experienced in OST organizations yet she
made everything so easy and fun for me. She didn't forget to
translate me what was going on despite the work load,
they both made me feel part of the team, cooperating with me,
listenining to my questions, making time and space to answer them.
And all the Boscop members made me feel at home and welcomed whenever
needed.
So i especially want to thank to Juliane Neumann and Mia
Konstantinidou as team members, and then Juliane Adler and Michael Pannwitz
(the junior)
as organizers and all the boscop members ( Michael -the senior); Jo,
Yaari, Anna, and all the participants some of them i knew from POP Berlin,
some were i met for the first time...) for giving me this first
opportunity to work professionally at an OST meeting and to make even some money
out of something that i love and enjoy so much.
Berlin is a beautiful colorful ciy, hosting many cultures and
societies. An unforgottable experience for me was a self organized, spontaneous
dinner where
it suddenly happened that we were 4 people around a table, eating
italian dish, drinking italian wine, listening to turkish music and each talking
different languages at the same time (english, german, spanish and
italian), yet we were able to make jokes, understand each other and laugh.
I also had a chance to meet different people who work a lot with OST.
A lot of OST work going on Europe and I didn't know that.
So please i kindly ask to hear more european OST experiences on the
list, they are crucial for me as examples and they give me some ideas
about integrating somethings from here to some of them or vice versa.
Please don't think only about bombs and terrorists, we have so many
things to offer;like music, food, dances, fun, laughter, love, brotherhood,
cooperation etc....( i don't know why i needed to tell this but i
wanted to mention)
2nd what we are doing here now
When it comes to the dish we will cook here, these are the steps
already taken;
1) here is the web site in turkish;
www.acikalanteknolojisi.com
I also have some pictures of our daily life where you can see that
some of it is already naturally organized as OST, they are not there yet but
they will be included very soon.
2) we set up a team of 4 women for the time being; Filiz, me, Sirin (
she is an arcitect very active in Greeanpeace ), Begum (she is a lawyer and
first woman rally champion in Turkey)
4 of us will be there in the last page of the web site, there is only
me for now.
3) Michael Pannwitz ( the senior) and Jo are coming to visit us in
february
4) We will organize an international training with them in may
5) IAO conference in October or November 2006 in Istanbul for which i
had very insprining meetings and conversations in Berlin.
Now before i tell you more about my dreams and projects; i would like
to invite Yawar, Karolina, Sirin and Begum to subscribe to the list.
I will talk about that probably in the afternoon as i have some
things to do now.
Funda
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