Hi Doug and all, thank you very much for the conversation. it smells spirit :-)) the nature of our self seem to be about silence rather than thought, and silence is not the background of our lives, it's the foreground. We are actual, we do some things and we have some sense of self, yes, it is all as it is.. Comparatively, thinking can do lots of good things, (and bad things) but it never gives us a true answer about awareness. Awareness seems to be beyond the concept of me and you created by thought. There's a lot of thought about awareness on the market, to define it, to show the way to it, more books are sold about it, it is a very good marketing product, however, no words can truly express what it is.. Living in Open space and living the question, or the questions of our lives are more about trust rather than beliefs that are carried by thoughts. Ask yourself who am i? you may have a lot of thoughts.. but if you don't answer to the question, only live it, you are you, you are left with what it is, something silent and very actual, simply life.. not a spiritual concept :)) My question will be, what is the relation between thought and change?? thanks.. Can
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:13:43 -0700From: chris@chriscorrigan.comSubject: Re: Facilitator must be part of the conversationsTo: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDUFirst thanks to Elwin for stepping into my skin. Good points. On 8/2/07, douglas germann <76066....@compuserve.com > wrote: Chris--On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 12:55 -0700, Chris Corrigan wrote: Hosting has to do with all of the capacities we use when we engage with clients around an open space. Some of these might include: Seeing and sensing patterns in the organization that help to find "accupuncture points" for change, How do you do that unless you are immersed, somehow, (how?) in the conversations? Well, when I work with a client, I don't usually just show up for the Open Space meeting. Elwin talks about the givens, and I have similar kinds of conversations with the client as we develop the theme and the invitation for the event. I like to work appreciatively with a client finding the patterns that give and sustain life in the organization. We can use those paterns to give life to a juicy Open Space event too, inviting people to step into to their work in a deeper way. In that sense, if we think of a gig with an organization as an extended conversation, I am very much in the conversation up front. Taking a courageous stand for clarity. Again, seems to me you have to be in the conversation to take a stand. Could you give an example please of what this might be? As Elwin said, offer examples of being clear in the event. I have noticed over the years that when we arrive at clairty, action becomes easy. The more clarity we have, the easier it is to act. So I serve clarity by helping sponsors find a clear theme, and by challenging participants in the Open Space to find the clarity they need to more forward. in doing so, I have stumbled upon the idea of fields, hosting and so on. It has made me no longer a facilitator per se but more of what John Abbe and others call "a process artist," living as an artist, trying to find the art in everything about process, including how I ride the bus and step into a venue to open space. Again, you have to be there to practice your art. Show up, as it is said, yes? With integrity, aware of your influence as Lisa and Mark say, but not being afraid to take your stand, which Martin Buber says is necessary....This seems to me is key. We need, in the right circumstance, to stand up, challenge people to do what is necessary, for instance, work toward consciously evolving the world. The time is too short to hold back because the rules say Stand aside, it is their conversation, not yours. Is it not ours? At some level every conversation is ours. And because it is OURS and not MINE, sometimes it serves US better if I step out. If we are in the world saying to clients that "If you are not learning and contributing, go somewhere where you can" why would we not practice that in our family and life? It is my ten year old daughter's favourite principle for her life - last week she wrote it out on a piece of paper and taped it to the dining room wall. And should we not be doing this in our hosting? Guess I'm just trying to convince myself. Yes and always in conversation with yourself about what you are learning and contributing, and always asking yourself where could you be that would serve. Sometimes that is a physical place, and sometimes it isn't. Presence is a tangible yet ineffable thing Fully present, completely invisible. Chris-- CHRIS CORRIGANFacilitation - TrainingOpen Space TechnologyWeblog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglotSite: http://www.chriscorrigan.comPrincipal, Harvest Moon Consultants, Ltd.http://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist _________________________________________________________________ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club. http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
