Well said, Kaliya.

> Barcamp is not open space.
> It is a copy of a copy of openspace.

It starts out with a bang, but fails to build a real community of peers, in my opinion. Which I, of course, find disappointing.

Kaliya Hamlin wrote:
Barcamp is not open space.
It is a copy of a copy of openspace.

The "copy" was foocamp an invitation only illetist event put on by oreilly media it stands for "friends of oreilly" they do " alpha geek run at the wall with sharpies" to create the agenda -very in intense and not very welcoming.

Barcamp was a copy of this process put on by people who had never even been to foocamp.

I was at the first barcamp and have been to foocamp. Neither are openspace.

The reason I started unconference.Net was to educate the tech community about good process including open space -how to do what they are trying to go well and not thinking they invented it (cause they thought that) Kaliya
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On Oct 18, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Yana Demenko <y...@demenko.info <mailto:y...@demenko.info>> wrote:

Dear friends, I just found interesting information about BlogCamp CIS and Baltics - unconference event on new media, blogs and web 2.0 that took place in Kyiv, Ukraine on Oct. 13-14, 2007. The organizers of this event are sharing an article which describes the format and results of it. Those of you who understand Russian may have a look at this link http://blogcamp.com.ua/index.php?title=Main_Page. My first reaction on this article was: "No doubts, this is an open space event!". The only difference is the length of the sessions (they used only 20 minutes for each one - 60 sessions per 2 days! Wow :)) and no circle for the opening ... other things seems the same to me. All this process organizers calls "*unconference event in the **barcamp format*". A bit more about barcamp format I found here http://barcamp.org/ (in English). Has anybody heard about this? Sweet dreams to Europe, have a nice day, Australia, good morning America :-)

Greetings from Ukraine, Yana

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