Peggy--
Thank you for restating what I had been trying to remember on what
happens after 1 day, 2 and 2.5.
It is interesting that people internalize the law after many days, that
a rhythm develops. I wonder about the collective unconscious and the
deeper things within the human species when we have longer observances,
and how that is perhaps parallel to what you are noticing here.
:- Doug.
On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 15:32 -0700, Peggy Holman wrote:
> I remember a simple framing from Harrison when first learning about OST. He
> said you can have a great conversation in one day. A second day provides
> time for a sense of direction to emerge. In 2.5 days, there's time to set
> priorities. That characterization fits my experience.
>
> I have either run or participated in a few OS's that were more than 2.5 days.
> I find they are great for truly internalizing the law of 2 feet. When
> explicitly invited to spend days and days in Open Space, people become more
> facile at paying attention to their own internal rhythm.
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
>
> > Dear Doug,
> > when I started facilitating os-events I was still employed by the
> > Protestant Church of Berlin as an OD-consultant. Most of my work was with
> > parishes and most of the participants were working folks who were able and
> > ready to follow the invitation to an event that started
> > -Friday afternoon (about 3pm and could go to 7pm)
> > -Saturday all day but not before 10 am so people could still do their
> > weekend shopping (the hours shops were open was much more regulated back
> > then, 1996, then today)
> > -Sunday, sometimes in the morning but often in the afternoon so that
> > participants could attend worship services, get a lunch at the event at
> > about 12:30 and stay until 16:30, enough to do a thorough Action Planning.
> > So, thats how a 16 hour event spread over 3 days became fairly common in my
> > first year (1996-1997) with 16 events in that year.
> > There were shorter events (4 hours, 6 hours, 8 hours, a day and a half,
> > etc.) but it was very impressive to see how "16 hours spread over three
> > days, sleeping twice" differed from shorter designs, even from 16 hours
> > (same amount of time) spread over 2 days, sleeping once.
> > (By the way, "16 hours spread over three days, sleeping twice" has long
> > been the "formula" with the Future Search crowd).
> > Later, when I worked with os all over, and also facilitated two full days
> > and a half I could not really find those additional hours in the morning of
> > the first day adding much to the os...half a day, a whole day and half a
> > day seemed to work just perfect...it was also the only design where I never
> > heard anyone saying in the Closing Circle "we should have had more time" or
> > similar statements. These time related statements are always to hear in
> > shorter designs.
> > I have never been in an event or facilitated one that went over more than 3
> > days BUT I have heard of such events and as I remember folks involved in
> > them felt that the additional time had not been needed.
> > This seems to be supported by remarks in Closing Circles where people
> > occasionally have said that now they are ready to go home and move on and
> > that the time was just right or that they didn't feel they could
> > continue..."happily exhausted", someone once said.
> > I have read about longer os events in a brochure issued by the Peace Corps
> > that used os in their trainings quite a while back...would not be surprised
> > if they still do.
> > The WOSonOS this year in Berlin employs a full 2,5 day design...and as far
> > as I know that has been its design regarding the length for many years. The
> > use of Action Planning in the last half day is now also being employed
> > every now and then but I think was not part of the early tradition...it
> > will be part of the design in Berlin.
> > I see you and another 10 folks from the USA are coming...great opportunity
> > to have a breakout session on that topic. Having a total of presently 126
> > people from 25 countries attending will definitely provide plenty of
> > diversity not to mention High Play, High Learning und no small amount of
> > Productivity and Fun!
> > Here is the link for those of you wanting to see the updated information:
> >> http://www.boscop.org/events/508-wosonos-2010
> >
> > You are all invited to come!
> > Greetings from springtime Berlin
> > mmp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > douglas germann schrieb:
> >> Hi--
> >> Where did the idea for 2 1/2 days come from? Why not 4 or 5 or 3?
> >> :- Doug.
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