MIchael, (to spend you some more fun) da ist was dran. Viele Sprachen zu hören und zu lesen macht mich immer wieder Staunen, wie vielfältig die Welt doch ist. Ich spüre auch selbst die Erleichterung, die es mit sich bringt, sich einfach und unkompliziert in seiner Muttersprache ausdrücken zu können. Andererseits lässt es mich der Sprachwirrwarr auch in einer gewissen Hilflosigkeit zurück - grade in einem Schreibmedium, wo man sich nicht mit "Händen und Füßen" helfen kann. Oder zumindest aus dem nonverbalen Drumrum gewisse Schlüsse ziehen kann. Letztlich landen wir dann doch immer wieder bei der lingua franca, und das scheint zumindest in unserer Gemeinschaft, englisch zu sein.
liebe Grüße aus Wien, Erich ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Herman To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:04 PM Subject: Re: OSLIST with many languages or using the NING for that? (was: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile) oh, i wasn't worried about translating, artur. i was thinking that so many different language streams might be a bit like have several breakout spaces within the oslist. i'd only read english, but it would be fun to see and know that others were talking about same -- open space -- in various other languages. like when i can see from one breakout several others, in os, but can't actually hear what's being said in those other sessions. now there's a fifth principal... whatever is shared in a language i can understand, i might read and learn and enjoy! <grin> m -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates http://www.michaelherman.com http://www.ronanparktrail.com http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org http://www.openspaceworld.org 312-280-7838 (mobile) On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Artur Silva <arturfsi...@yahoo.com> wrote: The translation from Portuguese of my previous message is: Michael and all Later, one of this days, or maybe even today, I will explain you why messages on many languages to the OSLIST can be confusing ;-) Artur PS: A good proof don't you think? PPS: If you put my Portuguese message in an automatic translater as tradukka (http://tradukka.com/) it reads like that: Then one of these days, or maybe even longer, I explain to you why messages in several languages, this space is confusing . Not very accurate, I am affraid. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Artur Silva <arturfsi...@yahoo.com> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 4:22:25 PM Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OSLIST with many languages or using the NING for that? (was: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile) Michael e todos: Depois, um destes dias, ou talvez mesmo já, eu explico-te porque é que mensagens em várias línguas, neste espaço são confusas ;-) ;-) ;-) Artur ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:39:19 PM Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OSLIST with many languages or using the NING for that? (was: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile) oslist, openspaceworld.ning... no matter, artur, just great that the conversation is going on *somewhere* in many languages. somewhere public where people can see and join. of course, the ning space is more visible than oslist, so it's great that it's happening there. i didn't remember that we tried this on oslist very much, but alas, i would have been puzzling over most non-english messages. thanks to everyone who's adding to the mix. m -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates http://www.michaelherman.com http://www.ronanparktrail.com http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org http://www.openspaceworld.org 312-280-7838 (mobile) On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Artur Silva <arturfsi...@yahoo.com> wrote: I don't think that would be a good idea, Michael. We have already tried that, but it was (is) too much confusing. One or two messages in other languages are ok IMHO, but real ongoing dialogues in many languages would bw crazy. Beside, one of the (many) ideas behind the World wide OST NING (http://openspaceworld.ning.com/) is, preciselly, to have "meeting points" and spaces for dialogue in many languages. Regards Artur -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 12:08:59 AM Subject: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile the first berlin osonos was the year that triggered openspaceworld.org to spring into many languages. wouldn't it be something if at the end of this year of the chilean wosonos, the oslist had gone multilingual? go go, JL! m -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates http://www.michaelherman.com http://www.ronanparktrail.com http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org http://www.openspaceworld.org 312-280-7838 (mobile) On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Christine Whitney Sanchez <cwhitneysanc...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm looking forward to that grande abrazo/abraço, Juan LuisQ On May 24, 2010, at 10:47 AM, JL Walker wrote: Ooops! Dear Christine, I just wanted to say: At least there are fifteen months for I can give you the big hug that from some years ago I'm wanting to give to you! Juan Luis De: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]En nombre de Christine Whitney Sanchez Enviado el: lunes, 17 de mayo de 2010 11:40 Para: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Asunto: Re: [OSLIST] All roads take us to Santiago de Chile Viva Chile! Christine Christine Whitney Sanchez Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy 1.480.759.0262 www.christinewhitneysanchez.com www.promiseusa.com Skype: christinewhitneysanchez http://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez On May 17, 2010, at 8:00 AM, JL Walker wrote: Dear Friends, Holding firmly with my left hand (that of the heart) one of our most treasured symbols (the talking stick), wanted to announce now, full of gratitude, that the next 19th WOSonOS will be held in the city of Santiago de Chile (or somewhere near), during the month of October 2011. It will be all our passion, creativity and responsibility, the ones that it will make of this event a milestone of warmth, hospitality and affection which belongs to the people of this long narrow strip of land in the Southern Hemisphere. In a few hours more I will leave Berlin and return to my home full of energy and enthusiasm to begin working hard for the success of this great task. For now just wanted to express all my joy and commitment, singing our cry again, that so often I did in Berlin with my dear friends from all over the world (http://vimeo.com/11757978 ): Ceachei i, Chi! Ele e, Le! Chi, Chi, Chi! Le, Le, Le! Viva Chile! A big hug to each and every one of you, and just be prepared to be surprised! Juan Luis Walker B. 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