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On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:

> I am sure it is irrelevant, and probably irreverent… but when I saw “TM” in 
> the conversation, I never thought about Toastmasters. Probably says a lot 
> about me, but that group of elegant speechifies had never been part of my 
> experience. What came up was Transcendental Meditation, a guru brand that 
> held some currency a few years back, and may still as far as I know. You can 
> imagine my confusion.
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> [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Tim Lam
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:04 AM
> To: Jane Lewis; World wide Open Space Technology emaillist
> Subject: Re: [OSList] SA1 Re: Openspace and Toastmasters - A Taster
>  
> Thanks all for your valuable comments.
>  
> It is undeniable that futher discussions need to be held with the TM group to 
> create a theme that sparks the passion of both groups involved.
>  
> I was also concerned very much about what Koos mentioned "Outlining the 
> differences at the start of the meeting would only confuse people", and did 
> myself once experiment with 'report-backs'.  I too found it made the end 
> drag, despite attendees wanting to know what happened in the other sessions.
>  
> Anyways, I'll advise as the story unfolds.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Tim.
>  
> From: Jane Lewis <janeele...@gmail.com>
> To: Tim Lam <timky...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology emaillist 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] SA1 Re: Openspace and Toastmasters - A Taster
> 
> Tim, Juicy question for me:
> 
> > my original question:  how a balance can be made between the 'chaos' of OS 
> > and the 'rigidity' of TM?
> >  
> > Maybe there is none...
> 
> I say that because it makes me laugh, or amuses me. My mind doesn't 
> comprehend, so I want to articulate what I heard (that you didn't say) that 
> tickled me. I can't catch what balance might mean here. 
> 
> My simple view of the world: Someone(s) set a structure, tell a story about 
> "come here and X will happen" and people either come or they don't. Then you 
> get to watch/join in what really happens. And you get to stay as long as you 
> want. Same for OS, same for TM.
> 
> I'm familiar with TM, from many different perspectives and involvement.
> 
> For me there's no either/or here. Let people get an invitation that indicates 
> what's on offer and they'll decide by whatever conscious or unconscious 
> criteria they happen to. 
> 
> So, I'm wondering what may feel out of balance for you in the situation. I'm 
> thinking you can just do it, and watch *that* it works.
> 
> I read a suggestion that you might hold a conversation with a few people to 
> decide the theme. When you find a group that lights up over something (a 
> theme) and wants to discuss it, and is keen to invite others and get a 
> place/time/tea supplies... your gig's on, yes? Then you can invite 
> enthusiastically and be prepared to be surprised by it all.
> 
> I'm happy to hear what I missed as my mind processed your words through its 
> myriad filters. Also, I'm curious to read how the story unfolds. 
> 
> Warm regards, Jane
> 
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