Yo Chris,

Thanks for the links; I am enjoying your vids. Thanks to you, and your vids, I 
am using a new word lately: ecotone

Daniel

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On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:59 AM, chris.corri...@gmail.com wrote:

> While Snowden and others introduced Cynefin in 2007, they have continued to 
> work on it in incredible amounts of detail.  Far more than is useful to 
> recite here.  But I would suggest that you visit 
> http://www.cognitive-edge.com to track the further development of this 
> framework.
> 
> We could get sidetracked into a whole thread on this, but what is interesting 
> to note from a technical perspective is that the Cynefin framework is 
> actually an ontology - meaning that it describes ways of being rather than 
> ways of knowing - and it helps people to understand what to do when 
> confronted by certain situations.  
> 
> I find it a really really useful framework, but in my 6 or more years of 
> exploring it have come to realize that it needs careful and appropriate 
> application.  
> 
> At a base level however, the distinction between the minds of problems that 
> require emergent solutions and those requiring technical solutions has been a 
> useful distinction when working with clients who are struggling with a 
> variety of responses to the kinds of situations they face in their work.  It 
> has been the most useful way.
> 
> If you can stand it, there is a 55 minute recording of me giving a 
> teleseminar online on the use of Cynefin to understand complexity especially 
> in respect to using participatory processes like Open Space:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRn3BM56W74
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Jul 24, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Daniel Mezick <d...@newtechusa.net> wrote:
> 
>> Harold,
>> 
>> Yes, and more and more work is actually tipping into the complex/chaotic 
>> state as depicted on the Cynefin diagram. I suspect this trend is being 
>> powered by increases in the rate of change in the society, driven primarily 
>> by technology. 
>> 
>> Every day, more and more work is complex and chaotic. Loads of change, all 
>> day, every day. 
>> 
>> Maybe the Cynefin diagram needs to allocate more space to complex and 
>> chaotic work, to depict it more accurately:
>> 
>> Diagram:
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Cynefin_framework_Feb_2011.jpeg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fewer and fewer projects are qualifying for the traditional ABC management 
>> approach. More and more complex & chaotic work tends to favor empirical 
>> approaches and may explain the popularity of Agile. It also might explain 
>> the rise of Open Space as a legitimate tool for manifesting high performance 
>> in business. "Management" as important as ever, is a function of the 
>> self-organizing system. It is not a role.
>> 
>> This link explains how Microsoft is laying off 18000 people and beginning 
>> what appears to be a forced march to Agile:
>> http://www.tgdaily.com/enterprise/120066-is-microsoft-adopting-a-more-agile-approach
>> 
>> ...this, from what was once a very, very successful software vendor. 
>> 
>> Ouch.
>> 
>> Are we all being swept along by a tide of relentless change? I see some 
>> crazy-looking folks way out there, in the water, wearing wet suits, on 
>> surfboards. They appear to be greatly enjoying themselves.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> On 7/24/14 6:15 AM, Harold Shinsato wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for bringing in the Cynefin framework! After hearing about 
>>> Snowden's framework at an agile software conference, it quickly spread 
>>> through the Agile community. Agile is even referenced in the wikipedia 
>>> article about Cynefin. I'd recommend that folks take a look at the article 
>>> at least for the simple graphic that helps understand the 
>>> model:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin
>>> 
>>> It's interesting that although Snowden's article was published in 2007 in 
>>> HBR, a good chunk of the useful ideas had been worked on by Brenda 
>>> Zimmerman and others starting in 1998 after being inspired by the study of 
>>> chaos theory.
>>> 
>>> Simple (or obvious) is like baking a cake. (Maybe things don't always go to 
>>> plan, but following a simple recipe at sea level with good tools and 
>>> ingredients will usually work).
>>> 
>>> Complicated is like sending a rocket to the moon. Yes, many moving parts in 
>>> mission control. Many things can go wrong. But working the plan does most 
>>> of the work.
>>> 
>>> Complex is like parenting a child. What you learn raising a child from 
>>> birth to age six does not give the answers for the next six years, let 
>>> alone for raising the next one.
>>> 
>>> Snowden also adds a Chaotic and Disorder domain, and interesting boundaries 
>>> and relationships between the five domains. What's also interesting about 
>>> Cynefin is that the focus is on our knowledge or understanding of a system 
>>> - not really a description of the Universe or piece thereof.
>>> 
>>> It's a mistake to dismiss the utility of Cynefin as a lens simply by 
>>> stating that the universe is self-organizing. If anything, this model's 
>>> utility is mostly in showing how traditional management processes (i.e. 
>>> command and control) are mostly inadequate for most issues especially in 
>>> today's environment. Cynefin has been used a great deal to help promote 
>>> agile practices in organizations, and surely can also be used to promote 
>>> OST.
>>> 
>>>     Harold
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/22/14 12:57 PM, chris.corri...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I seek simplicity in trying to describe where and how Open Space does it’s 
>>>> magic.
>>>> 
>>>> One of the ways I have had excellent success over the years in describing 
>>>> this work is derived from David Snowden’s work on the Cynefin framework.  
>>>> 
>>>> The short story is this:
>>>> 
>>>> We are faced all the time with problems that are basically knowable, and 
>>>> problems that aren’t.  Knowable problems mean that with the right 
>>>> knowledge and expertise, they can be fixed.  A technical team can come 
>>>> together and analyse the causes, work with what’s available and craft a 
>>>> solution.  Then they can get an implementation plan in place and go ahead 
>>>> and do it.  These kinds of problems have a start line and a finish line.  
>>>> When you are done, you are done.  Building a bridge is one of those kinds 
>>>> of problems.  You build it and there is no tolerance for failure.  It 
>>>> needs to be failsafe.
>>>> 
>>>> Open Space doesn’t work well for those kinds of problems because the 
>>>> solution is basically already known, or at least knowable. 
>>>> 
>>>> Then there are problems for which no know solution exists, and even if you 
>>>> did get a solution, you can’t really “solve” the problem because the 
>>>> problem is due to a myriad of causes and is itself emergent. For example, 
>>>> racism.  Look around and you will find very few people that identify 
>>>> themselves as racists, but look at the stats for Canadian society for 
>>>> example and you see that non-white people are trailing in every indicator 
>>>> of societal success.  Essentially you are seeing the results of a racist 
>>>> society but no racists anywhere.  This is an emergent problem.  Racism 
>>>> itself is a self-organizing phenomenon, notwithstanding the few people 
>>>> that actively engineer racist environments.  Such a problem didn’t really 
>>>> start anywhere and it can’t really end either.  What is needed is a way of 
>>>> addressing it, moving the system away from the negative indicators and 
>>>> towards something else.
>>>> 
>>>> In other words, this is a complex problem.  
>>>> 
>>>> The way to solve complex problems is to create many “strange attractors” 
>>>> around which the system can organize itself differently.  Open Space nis 
>>>> the best method I know of for creating such strange attractors, as they 
>>>> are born from the passion and responsibility of those that want to create 
>>>> change, and they are amplified by people coming together to work on these 
>>>> things.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s “post and host” rather than “command and control.” 
>>>> 
>>>> And because you can’t be sure if things are going to work out, you have to 
>>>> adopt a particular mindset to your initiative: one that is “safe to fail.” 
>>>>  In other words, if it doesn’t work, you stop doing it.  If it does work, 
>>>> you do more of it.  And all the way along you build in learning, so that 
>>>> the system can see how change is made and be drawn towards those 
>>>> initiatives that are currently making a difference.  Certainly this kind 
>>>> of problem solving is not useful for building a bridge, as you cannot 
>>>> afford a failure there.  But for problems with no known solutions, it is 
>>>> brilliant.  
>>>> 
>>>> Harrison has spent decades outlining this simplicity in even less words 
>>>> than I have now and his writing and thinking is, and continues to be far 
>>>> ahead of it’s time and maybe a little under appreciated because it is 
>>>> delivered in simple terms like “don’t work so hard.”  But ultimately this 
>>>> is the best and most important advice for working in complex systems.  
>>>> 
>>>> Open Space.  Do it.  Learn. Do it again. Don’t work so hard.
>>>> 
>>>> More than that really starts to build in the delusion that people can 
>>>> possibly know what to do.  From that place solutions will be deluded.  
>>>> That they may work is pure luck.  Open Space offers us a disciplined 
>>>> approach to addressing complexity in an ongoing way.  Don’t be fooled by 
>>>> its simplicity.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> har...@shinsato.com
>>> http://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush
>>> 
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