A bow to you dear OS fellows as I prepare to open space for the first time :)   

     On Monday, January 5, 2015 4:34 PM, Tova Averbuch 
<tova.averb...@gmail.com> wrote:
   

 
Thank you so much Chris. This is so beautiful and Crystal clearTova נשלח 
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ב-Jan 4, 2015, בשעה 23:21, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
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All good things from people named John!
My friend Toke Moeller often shares the insight that “purpose is the invisible 
leader” and I share that too.  Purpose can be stated and unstated, and like 
everything in the realm of complexity, is always changing. 
In order for emergence to happen, it happens within boundaries, and that 
includes the emergence that later comes to redefine boundaries. My point 
earlier was that stated purposes can help a great deal AND you need to leave 
space for the possibility that any way you state it or understand, there is 
always a high chance that your purpose itself may not serve, or may be at odds 
with a different, hidden and often more powerful purpose.  
This gets summed by my other friend Tim Merry who says “Culture eats strategy 
for breakfast.”  This means that no matter how clever you are or how articulate 
you are about purpose, goals and intentions, if you are opening space, culture 
will show up, and it is sometimes the more powerful purpose.  
This is why holding space is often terrifying.
Chris 

On Jan 4, 2015, at 12:40 PM, John Watkins <johnw...@mac.com> wrote:
John,
My experience is that open spaces (and open systems) are "purpose-seeking" 
systems, and getting clarity through emergence about purpose is probably one of 
the most important aspects of people opening space together.  Purpose is 
dynamic and powerfully grounding in a sense of essence or the being-ness of the 
emergent group; it's like a strange attractor for the emergence of meaning and 
aligned action.  Goals, on the other hand, are inert and static; they tend to 
shut down rather than open up space.  If you set goals before you gather 
together and make meaning, often all they do is reinforce the "limitations that 
we mistake for our goals," to cite one of my teachers.  We end up with what we 
started with, not something with new potential and power.  Goals can be 
helpful, though I prefer to think about intentions and aspirations and what I 
want to accomplish instead.  So, I would go for purpose first, and use goals 
only as a crutch (this is a good purpose for them, BTW), or even, 
retrospectively, once purpose and meaning and intention and aligned actions are 
envisioned and something has been accomplished.
John Watkins
On Jan 4, 2015, at 2:37 AM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:

I feel Chris like we have seemingly conflicting suggestions, but might be 
talking about different things.
Reading about games recently (McGonigal's Reality is Broken) got me thinking 
about goals.  And specifically, how goals are different from purpose.
Don't know whether this will help but here goes.  I am only just thinking this 
through so it is not well tested.
Goals are an element of a good game.  They are almost part of the rules of the 
game, like an agreement - something that we buy in to as part of participation.
The most productive spaces I have been part of have had a clear goal for that 
space (that is understood and agreed to by all).
I haven't used the word 'goal' to describe this before and maybe it is not the 
best one, but it feels right to me to use a different word than 'purpose' which 
always seem in reality to be impossible to pin down.  I am always aware that 
there is a broad web of different intents and purposes and ideas that no 
individual will ever compute (even just those within themselves, let alone 
others!), that will always be fuzzy.
Personally, having a solid 'goal' for a space is a fundamental part of holding 
that space, any space.  It need not be written down, but I need to feel it, and 
ideally it is as transparent as possible in the invitation and for participants 
(part of the social contract of participation).
Cheers

John BaxterCocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create Adelaide 
Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au | CoCreateADL.com0405 447 829​ | ​@jsbaxter_
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
<oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

Sometimes though, fuzzy purpose is really really useful.  I’ve had situations 
where a group is really sure of what it is doing, and what it exists for and 
yet nothing is working.  
This happens a lot with mainline churches these days, many of whom are certain 
that they can recreate the “success” they had in the 1960s.  They are certainly 
clear on their purpose, but the harder they try, the worse they make it for 
themselves.  
And so we have run OST meetings where the purpose was unclear and fuzzy and 
people simply proposed topics that interested them.  And it turns out that that 
is a good way to discover the new directions you are trying to get into.  Of 
course all groups need a boundary, and in the case that immediately comes to 
mind, the question was “What else can we be?” 
People felt that was too fuzzy to get any kind of strategic work done, but what 
happened was that it invited people into a now three year journey of wayfinding 
together.  Which, it turns out, is a good purpose for a church.
I think it’s not my job to “help people discover what they should be doing” 
even in Open Space.  I can, however, help hold space so that people can explore 
the fuzziness and confusion that they find themselves in AND I can model 
behaviour of not needing to know, of avoiding premature convergence of ideas 
and purpose, so that the innovation and wisdom and leadership at the margins 
can come forward.  
In the parlance of software developers, not knowing what to do is a feature of 
living in this world, not a bug.
Cheers,
Chris

On Jan 3, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Anne-Béatrice Duparc via OSList 
<oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
I love how you put it in words John. I will discuss it today with the caller. 
Indeed there is much that seems already prepared and "shoulds". I hope I can 
help them let go of it. 
Thanks for the reminder,

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If you can help the group to become clear about what the most important
focus/challenge/question is for them *now*, then they will be able to let
go of all those preconceived discussion topics in order to address their
priority.
If the purpose is fuzzy then all people have to go on is their baggage and
prepared ideas.  This makes it hard for people to embrace the space, and
they are likely to walk away disappointed (though they may still get a lot
done).

Overall, it will be useful to help people find what they really want to *do*,
vs what they think they should *talk about*.  I don't really know how to
describe this better, nor how you should do it.  But it might help.

Cheers


*John Baxter*
*Cocreation Consultant & ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator*
jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/> | CoCreateADL.com
0405 447 829
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@jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
 Anne-Béatrice Duparc
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