thanks for raising these questions, pernilla. what you're proposing in terms of people (rather than countries!) coming forward at the beginning of the gathering makes great sense to me. these invitations can be offered at any time, of course, including a week or a month before the wosonos gathering time. if our tradition were to evolve in that direction, there could be some commenting on that in advance of the gathering.
at the same time, the thing that makes for the pressure and scarcity and overall un-OS feeling of this situation isn't really a question of when the invites are offered, but that we have developed this habit of having only one of these gatherings at once, or one per year, or more specifically that we designate just one as *the* world osonos, even though nordic and haitian and camden and oz folks and some other have had significant series of osonos gatherings. i really like the idea that these things could happen on several continents at once, so the wosonos had multiple sites. progress of tools like qiqochat offer interesting possibilities of being able to easily bumblebee across oceans. we've also been growing a tradition of spinning these things up into major productions, perhaps drifting some from the simple power of our core practice. if we met in more places at once and traveled shorter distances, maybe the hosts would feel less pressure to "work too hard" an planning and organizing these things? what if the wosonos could evolve in the direction of a kind of world-around OS carnival/retreat/learning exchange week? many invites, many parties, i mean working sessions? michael -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Lisa Heft - via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > How wonderful, your invitation, in all its richness, Pernilla. > > Another two things I would like to add: > > 1) As always, for any team interested in hosting a WOSonOS for a future > year, I have a growing living letter of lessons-learned - gathered wisdom > from past host teams, that has been growing since 2001 and that I happily > offer to whoever wishes to contact me. My request is that if you, dear > reader, are thinking “oh that is something I / we will ask Lisa for” then > please wait until a few weeks from now, as I will in a few weeks update it > with the latest Host Team’s lessons-learned. > > And 2) As has happened at several years in the past, including at our > recent WOSonOS - you as a Host Team / Host Team representative do not have > to be physically present at a WOSonOS in order to invite. Several of us > have over the years acted as representatives for teams wishing to invite > who were not able to physically make it. And you can make us do whatever > you like, to represent you ! > > Looking forward to the conversation, > Lisa > > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Pernilla Luttropp via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > Hi all! > At the inspiring WOSONOS in Kraków there were some learning conversations > on how this community goes about when expressing and accepting invitations > from countries/places to host the upcoming WOSONOSes. > > In the big circle there were voices that expressed some confusion and > discomfort with the process. Others said that whatever happened, they would > trust the process. There was also the mentioning of ‘traditions’ and the > ways things are usually done at a WOSONOS. And the reminder that traditions > are made in every single now and ‘Whatever happens is the only thing that > could have’. > > > *If you are new to WOSONOS *This is how it’s usually done (I think): the > countries that wish to host the next WOSONOS makes an invitation at the > closing circle of the WOSONOS and the participants are free to accept any > of the invitations. The process of accepting the invitation is sometimes > done by some kind of ‘voting’ procedure in order to agree on one place. > There is often someone who reminds everybody that the only way to ‘vote’ in > Open Space is by applying ‘The law of mobility’. There is no need to only > have one WOSONOS, there could be multiple since ‘Wherever it happens is the > right place’. > > > *My view *I am personally very uncomfortable to use the words ‘voting’ or > to ‘make a collective decision’ within an Open Space. One of the beauties > with Open Space is taking responsibility for your own engagement. If we all > share the same engagement we will walk in the same direction, eventually. > But sometimes it takes time for things to emerge. > If a group decides on voting there are many good methods and it’s of > outmost importance for those present to understand what they are about to > do, in order to make an informed decision. Is it a majority decision? How > many is the majority? What happens if some vote no? Is it possible to have > a ballot vote? Is it the role of the facilitator to sum it up and make the > final decision? In my view, we can only express our appreciation for the > invitation at the Open Space, offer help if needed and make use of the law > of mobility. > > > *An invitation *This is an invitation to try something else and maybe to > let go of a ‘tradition’. What if we opened up at the beginning of the > process in order to see how it self organizes at the end? > There seems to be something unclear about the ‘tradition’ on how to get > information about who is inviting and why. If that information were > transparent from the very start of the WOSONOS, it might enable more > dialogue with the inviting hosts and between the hosts. > > The countries/places that wish to host a future WOSONOS could post this on > the OSLIST and Facebook and send a gentle reminder a few weeks before the > upcoming WOSONOS. The inviting hosts would then be posted on a flip chart > at the WOSONOS and announced as a session when creating the bulletin board > or at the evening news. As always there is the opportunity to add places, > sessions and news announcements up until the closing circle, both on the > spot and via other ways of communicating. This would make it easier for > everyone to approach the hosts, express their delight or ask clarifying > questions. It would also enable the hosts (or their representatives) to > come together in a session and find out how they would like to do the > invitations in the closing circle. Maybe some will wait until next year? > Maybe multiple WOSONOSes in one year? Maybe in different continents at the > same time? Maybe with different themes/urgent questions? Let’s embrace > chaos and see what emerges! Or ‘Whatever happens is the only thing that > could have’. > > Since the closing circle have a more definite dead line than ‘When it is > over it is over’, due to flights and other time restrictions, this > prolonged invitation process will open up time for more dialogues and > invitations. > But then again, as said in the closing circle in Kraków, there is nothing > like a good mess in order to learn something new J > > Maybe it has been tried before and in that case I’m interested to know how > it worked or didn’t work. > > Greetings from Sweden! > Pernilla > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >
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