Erich Kolenaty created a photo presentation on the one day OST event in Würzburg/Germany (2013) that HO mentioned with 2108 participants. 232 issues were presented and dealt with in 3 phases (starting times at 10:15, 11:45 and 13:45) which meant 77 breakout spaces. Many of the breakout spaces were set up by the participants... look here
https://www.transformation.at/documents/OS_Wuerzburg_minimized.pdf

There is also a 78 minute film on this event, including the English and German version of the introduction by HO and mmp, interviews with participants, facilitators and sponsor, available here
https://www.steinhardt-verlag-shop.de/epages/61415289.sf/de_DE/?ObjectID=2386608

If Peggys rule of thumb would have been applied (20% of the people post issues in large groups) there should have been 421 issues. At the Würzburg event nobody imagined 232 issues. But 232 issues were easily dealt with by the 2108... the only explanation I have for that is the magic of the force of selforganisation.l

The rule of thumb mentioned in the "mini spec" that Robin Muretisch posted "... 3 out of 10 participants will post a session" would have meant 632 issues in Würzburg.

So much to the rules of thumb.

My experience is that the number of issues posted is not only a factor of the number of folks attending but also has to do with the length of the event. With smaller groups the number of issues can be the same as the number of participants and even more if it is a "regular" 2,5 day OST event where additional issues are posted during the event. Another factor is that participants vary greatly in the number of issues each participant offers. In some cases there will be participants that offer 2 to 10 issues and others dont offer any.

The ressource that Lori Palano remembered to have seen was a graph with two parameters (number of participants and number of issues) that was prepared by someone in the team that set up the event with 2108 participants. Basically, it showed a curve that rose steeply and then tapered off to almost a straight line... meaning that in general the number of issues rose inversely to the number of participants, or, the larger the group the smaller the number of issues per participant.

I am sure someone among us has that graph buried in a file.

I wonder what additional parameters other than than number of participants and length of the event would have to be considered for a more reliable tool to predict the number of issues to be expected at an OST event.

Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 05.06.2019 um 17:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:
And then there was the time when Michael Pannwitz and I had 2108 participants… And I think we ended up with 175 Groups. We grossly under-estimated (75) – but fortunately you can add groups as  many as you need. The People are always right, and they will claim the space they need. Facilitators are only guessing – and then just get out of the way J

Harrison

*From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Lori Palano via OSList
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:51 AM
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*Cc:* Lori Palano
*Subject:* [OSList] number of breakout groups

Hello all

A number of years ago I seem to remember a resource shared on this list that calculated an average number of breakout groups that tended to show up according to the total number of participants based on the cumulated experience of this community. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I think it was an excel sheet. I'd like to find it again, but so far my searching hasn't lead to anything.

Here's hoping!

Lori


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