...Recalling an interview with Nora Bateson sharing one of the "key-rules" 
of her childhood amazing open space (my take on that) learning playground: 
"There is no such thing as a stupid question"... 
For this reason and for a sensed excitement around process (design) questions, 
I am glad this question was asked. 
Thank you, Dear Robyn!  
 
However I'd go beyond comparison and beyond contrast... 
Beyond these, the exploration feels fascinating 
and deeper/wider/ more artful even perhaps questions even more so... 
 
For me (and no I'm not "a trained WD host" not even a "trained open space 
host") 
I'm just a big lover of both: 
There is something in self-organisation that dances so well with warm dating... 
 
-What is it? What are the processes that can courageously hold us or teach us 
or take us deeper/higher...?
 in this submerging?
 
Kindly & With Curiosity and Warmth, 
 
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On 1 Jun 2020, at 3:57 pm, Jeroen Vermeer via OSList 
<oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

Although much has been said already on this topic, I'd like to offer my 
insights as a trained WDL host. Simply put: don't even try to compare OST and 
WDL, just not worth the exercise. The Warm Data Lab has been designed as a 
process to let people experience the rich interdependencies of complex systems 
and questions. It can for example serve as a precursor to an OST event, or be a 
standalone process. It has no purpose other than to create a lived experience 
(and thereby altered perception) of the participants on the interdependencies. 
As Nora Bateson likes to say "perception is action", so it's effects are not to 
be underestimated. The process itself looks to be very simple, but there's 
actually a lot to it, which goes well beyond what I can explain. Please follow 
Nora Bateson herself through the many writings she has shared or the podcasts 
she has taken a part in. Watch her fillm 'An ecology of Mind', or take her 
training ;) 

Warm regards, 
Hartelijke groet, 

Jeroen Vermeer


Op 30/05/2020 17:43:42, Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
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On Sat, May 30, 2020, 8:07 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
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To write "open space" in lower case is my trademark, so please, respect it

greetings from Berlin where I enjoy the last spring days and the open 
beer garden in my neighborhood... its not the same thing as a couple of 
martini cocktails so I have no new insights...

I wonder what a "Cold Data Lab" would look like or even a "Hot Data Lab" 
or a "Temperate Data Lab" or a "Fragrant Data Lab"...

Be on the watch for Holy Spirit in the next couple of days

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Am 30.05.2020 um 13:20 schrieb Robyn Williams ► via OSList:
> Thanks Thomas, I agree, that’s why ‘open space’ was in lower case. J
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> Def not OST!
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