Never mind, I found the sign you are talking about. You have a good eye! No wonder I've never seen it before. I changed all the access back to private.
>Indeed: switching on "private access" is the only thing you can do. That actually does not fix the problem. Otherwise I would not have bothered making this thread ;) -- Skyler On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, at 00:13, Skyler Hawthorne wrote: > Hi Harry, I also looked at street view in both Google Maps and > Mapillary to confirm, and I do not see any such sign. May I please see > a screenshot of what you are seeing? > > -- > Skyler > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, at 23:54, Harry van der Wolf wrote: > > Some remarks, > > > > I checked with Streetview and the sign on the Tasman Drive entrance > > clearly mentions "Private property" and below that "No ...." in which I > > can't read the last word but I think it is trespassing or entrance or > > something similar, which means the tag "access=private" is correct. > > > > Never, and that means never, change road tags because one navigation > > app is not routing like you expect. That is really a big "NO" in the > > mapping community. > > > > In this case OsmAnd is even 100% correct as it is really "private > > eaccess". It could also mean that you get a fine when really using > > those roads. OsmAnd does a good job from not routing your through the > > park. > > Indeed: switching on "private access" is the only thing you can do. > > And please, please set the "access=private" tag back as soon as > > possible. > > > > Harry > > > > > > > > Op zo 5 apr. 2020 om 06:42 schreef Skyler Hawthorne > > <skylerhawtho...@gmail.com>: > > > __ > > > Thanks for such a detailed response! These are super helpful suggestions, > > > and help me learn more about mapping with OSM. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, at 17:51, Greg Troxel wrote: > > > > > >> I believe it takes a few days for some of the online services. I > > >> remember this from a year or so ago when I marked a closed road under > > >> construction and when I restored it. I checked every day or so to see > > >> how long it took for routing to change. > > > > > > Actually, I was wondering about this: does OSMAnd do all the route > > > calculation itself, locally on the device? Or does it ask an online > > > routing service? I might be missing it, but I don't see any options in > > > any of the menus that lets you configure how you would like to get > > > routes. I did a quick test and tried to calculate a route while my phone > > > was in airplane mode, and it was able to do it, which is evidence to me > > > that it's doing a local calculation. If it is, then routing related > > > changes should be reflected as soon as the map data is updated, right? > > > > > >> I would be inclined, were I local, to > > >> > > >> move the way that represents the wall and boundary to more accurately > > >> be on the wall > > >> > > >> split the way into segments of actual wall and not wall > > >> > > >> only tag the actual wall with barrier=wall > > >> > > >> create a relation of the segments both wall and not-wall types to form > > >> a single closed relation for tagging amenity=trailer_park > > > > > > Interesting, I considered doing something like this, but I wasn't quite > > > sure how to do it with the existing closed way that encases the whole > > > park. Thanks for the suggestion, that makes it clear how to approach it > > > that way. I might try that next. > > > > > >> > > >> change these roads from highway=service to highway=residential. But, > > >> parcel data might show that they are not legally roads. I would want > > >> to inquire what the local conventions are. It feels to me like > > >> highway=residential is more likely the right thing, especially given > > >> the naming. > > > > > > Ah, that makes sense, will do. And the rest of your suggestions. > > > > > >> It is not really legitimate to change tagging from private to > > >> destination to get a router to do what you want. If it really is true > > >> that anyone who has a legitimate reason to travel to some place within > > >> the complex can use the road, then access=destination is the right thing > > >> to do, regardless of routing behavior. But if it's not, and the router > > >> isn't doing what you think it should, then the router should be fixed, > > >> not the data made incorrect. > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep that in mind. In this case, yes, > > > anyone who wants to go in can go in, so I think access=destination is the > > > right thing. > > > > > > > Did you turn on private access? > > > > > > Yes. And actually, I tried something else that yielded some really > > > interesting results: I added an intermediate destination somewhere else > > > in the park. It routed through the main entrance successfully, as it > > > should have, and then it exited back out the park to go back to the spot > > > outside the park!! I've attached a screenshot. > > > > > > This leads me to believe that there must be something wrong with either > > > the map data or the router. I can't find any problems with the map data. > > > All nodes are connected, and private road access is on. 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