On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Charles Bennett wrote: > Millions? There were only a couple that suffered that fate. > > The people that did it were punished and it was not the norm but a > CRIMINAL act and treated that way once it was discovered. > > The perpetrators are in prison. > > If you had your way Saddam would STILL be murdering people by the > thousands, the UN would still be skimming the oil for food project, > thousands would be dying ever year, Saddam would still be doing the > two step with the weapons inspectors and there would be no end in > sight. > > There *is* a hell of a difference to me.
You are trying to have it both ways. You only accept the US cases that were successfully prosecuted in US courts. By that standard, Saddam never killed anybody. I regard the fact that only enlisted soldiers and noncoms were prosecuted as an indictment of the US system, not a vindication of it. > And you don't speak of them AT ALL. It's as if the millions that died > under his rule don't matter and didn't happen because it doesn't fit > your story of life being better under Saddam. Are you actually arguing that it's OK if life didn't get any worse under US occupation? If you look back you will see that I actually didn't defend Saddam at all. I merely objected to your trivialization of US atrocities as making people "parade around in their underwear". That's like saying Pol Pot made people attend classes. > We didn't target civilians on purpose. Ever. If you use google you can find plenty of people who *confess* to targeting civilians. And then there's Blackwater. > There is no defending that the intelligence was wrong. It wasn't "wrong": It was manipulated. The idea that US decision- makers were mislead by bad intelligence is just another non-fact put about by apologists for the war. You can present all the arguments you want that the Iraqis are better off for our invasion but it is clear that except for the Kurds the Iraqis themselves don't believe it. -- For blocks are better cleft with wedges, Than tools of sharp or subtle edges, And dullest nonsense has been found By some to be the most profound. -Samuel Butler, _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
