On Dec 31, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Lawrence Sica wrote:


On Dec 31, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:


On Dec 31, 2008, at 12:25 PM, Jared ''Danger'' Earle wrote:

but if they were in international waters trying to enter Israeli waters, and you were an Israeli captain, what would you do? Pop quiz, hotshot.


legally, you wait until they are in your domain

of course, we could just throw out all international law, if that's your preference
k

It's akin to firing at people over your border. You don't really want to do it since if you get caught it looks bad. My sense is the Israeli gov't/military doesn't really give a shit. They are getting their blood and their political boost that they needed.

I've read a few different articles on the whole thing and it sounds like there was low level provocation against Hamas for a little while,


yes --
a friend passed this along:

What about Israel's security? Aren't Israelis the victims of constant rocket fire? Didn't Hamas break the ceasefire?

• All human beings, include Palestinians and Israelis, deserve secure lives. • In democratic elections in early 2006, the Hamas political party won. Israel, with the support of the U.S. began placing Gaza under a blockade, which has continued to tighten, leading to extremely low supplies of food, medicine, water, electrical power, and all other basic necessities of life. This blockade can only contribute to desperation, which cannot provide a path to peace for anyone.

• In June of 2008 the Hamas government in Gaza established a cease- fire with Israel. The agreement was to end the firing of homemade rockets into Israeli territory and living the siege on Gaza. The blockade never ended and Israel continued to come into Gaza territory to assassinate Palestinians. In November 2008, 14 Palestinians were killed by Israeli assaults. It was these assassinations and the continuing blockade that made the ceasefire agreement moot. During this period some rocket fire continued from militants who were not linked with Hamas, but there were no Israeli deaths caused by Palestinian rocket fire from the beginning of the ceasefire until the day of the Israeli invasion. The airstrikes, which stoke the Palestinians anger and desire for revenge, in no way contribute the security of Israelis. Ceasefires are more effective.


--Larry
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