On Feb 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:23 AM, LuKreme wrote:
On 17-Feb-2009, at 14:46, Christian Brunschen wrote:
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7892387.stm>
While it is certainly true that the actions of the US and allies have
weakened, if not destroyed, human rights laws I think there is
another
issue that is much more basic.
When people see that the government they live under does not honor
the
law, or honor people's right, they themselves are more likely to not
honor the law, or other people's rights. It's much like growing up in
a house where your parents are yelling all the time, you're much more
likely o react to confrontation by yelling at others.
Seriously, the damage that president Shithead did will be being felt
for at least the next couple of generations, regardless of how
successful Obama is.
I think it goes much deeper than that. I don't know the underlying
causes but it clear that Bush and Cheney were more the beneficiaries
of a deep strain of cowardice that crept into the American character
sometime in the last decade or two. After all, Cheney announced that
he intended to violate his oath of office and turn the US government
into "a government of men, not of laws" because he thought that was
necessary after 9/11. Hardly anyone raised an eyebrow. More
alarming, Cheney recently said "at least 61 of the inmates who were
released from Guantanamo during the Bush administration — “that’s
about 11 or 12 percent” — have “gone back into the business of being
terrorists.”
This is a shocking admission that 88 or 89% of the people released
from Guantanamo were innocent non-terrorists. Yet no one in either
the liberal or conservative punditry or the MSM expressed any shock.
You cannot draw that conclusion. For all I know, 11 to 12% of
people that get out of jail go back to being criminals. That does NOT
mean that the other 90% were innocent.
It just means that they are no longer committing crimes. Perhaps
Gitmo, caused them to re-think their priorities in life.
=c=
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