On Feb 18, 2009, at 9:27 PM, David Cake wrote:

>       Charles is right. The 88% figure is an upper bound on the
> number of Gitmo inmates who were innocent.

History is replete with examples where imprisoning moderate opponents  
of a given regime radicalized them. The Stuart Kings, the British Raj,  
the English in Ireland and any number of revolutions in Latin America  
come to mind. I challenge you and Charles to find a single example  
where imprisoning and abusing a population actually decreased the  
proportion who were willing to support violence against the regime  
that ran the prison.

>       Indeed, desperate acts of grotesque inhumanity often have
> that effect. They are probably now occupied with, say, rebuilding
> their shattered lives, recuperating from torture, or maybe
> campaigning for justice.

Many may indeed have been too debilitated to engage in actual armed  
resistance but that was just Chuck's spin. Cheney said "“gone back  
into the business of being terrorists.” Cheney has made it clear that  
he considers anyone who lends financial or even moral support to any  
organization he considers terrorist is himself a terrorist.
--
A young idea is a beautiful and a fragile thing. Attack people, not  
ideas.

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