On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Jared Earle wrote:
On 9 Jul 2009, at 16:49, Chris Gehlker wrote:
I'm so naive that I think justice is when the punishment fits the
crime. I don't see how the racial, religious, gender or sexual
orientation of either the victim or the perpetrator com into it.
I agree. What always bothers me is that we presume to be able to
read minds.
I don't have a problem with worse penalties for people in a position
of trust or authority abusing it but I don't see how
you could then add something on top because you "think" that in their
hearts, they were *also* racist, homophobic or whatever.
When you try to divine a criminals motivation just to award greater
penalties, you end up with all sorts on convoluted thinking, trying to
define what constitutes "thought" of sufficient virulence to invoke
these additional punishments.
It's not like the threat of additional punishment actually deters the
crime. "I'm gonna kill that rat bastard, but I better not utter a
racial epithet lest I get an additional 10 years.." That is just
illogical.
That's good. It means that if everyone were as enlightened as you,
there would be no need for hate-crime legislation. Until then, though,
we unfortunately still need it.
So was their attack a hate crime?
The Akron police don't seem to be able to figure it out.
I'm pretty sure that if we could read the Akron police's mind, we'd
observe that they are scared shitless of stating the obvious.
Doing so would cause sharpton and jackson to take time away from an
(alleged) pedophiles funeral (wow does that make me guilty of hate
thought?) [1]
and visit Akron, to march and support the "yoots" [2]
If it were reversed, the FBI would already be there looking into civil
rights charges against the attackers and there would already be
protests.
I hate double standards.
=c=
[1] As a dad, I'd pretty much like to "do in" most pedophiles.. If I
say that a black pedophile deserves the same, is it now some sort of
hate speech?
How could society know what's in my dark little heart or do I have to
"say" that *black* pedophiles deserve extra killing to give them some
insight to my internal thought process? Isn't it just silly?
[2] My Cousin Vinney reference
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