Hi all

What an interesting discussion this is...

I think that occupational therapists do know most about occupations and
are the only professional group with skills in assessing occupational
performance / function and then constructing (ideally occupation based)
treatment programmes to address the occupational performance
difficulties of the client.  While other professions may know as much
(and often more) about aspects of occupational performance, only
occupational therapists put that together and take a truly occupational
perspective - well most occupational therapists!

In contrast to Claire, the longer I have been an OT the greater clarity
I have gained about what that involves and what it means.

Claire, given that occupation is a complex 'thing', I would be
interested to hear how you manage to address your clients occupational
needs as well as do all those other things which doctors or nurses might
have done traditionally?

I like your post Joe as it raises some key issues, as I see it anyway...
two papers which I think are great at exploring what should determine
our practice are...

Wilcock, A. (1999). The Doris Sym Memorial Lecture: Developing a
philosophy of occupation for health. British Journal of Occupational
Therapy, 62(5), 192-198.

Fortune, T. (2000). Occupational therapists: Is our therapy truly
occupational or are we merely filling gaps? British Journal of
Occupational Therapy, 63(5), 225-230.



Matthew

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-----Original Message-----
From: Claire1 Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 September 2003 14:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re[10]: [OTlist] PT does it all!!


Hi Ron and Joe
Your ongoing debate is very interesting. I qualified as an OT in 1996
and have worked in orthopaedics and hands since 1998.  I have recently
started as an arthroplasty practitioner in Derby, England.  This is a
new post which I'm starting up from scratch.  The main remit of my post
is with regard to the follow up of routine hip and knee arthroplasty
patients.  The patients see me at the first 6/52 check and then at
annual review instead of the consultant/registrar. 
I've found your debate particularly topical as I continue to develop the
post. I think that it is possible to work from a "mechanistic" and a
"holistic" viewpoint.  I need to check wounds, rule out DVTs, assess ROM
and interpret x-rays - mechanistic/reductionistic practice.  But I also
need to ensure that I'm facilitating the patient to participate in the
activities/occupations which are felt to be meaningful.
  Is this the unique domain of OT?  I don't know!! I actually find the
longer I practice the more difficult it is to truly define OT.  My post
was also open to PT and nursing and I'm sure that each profession may
have taken a slightly different focus. Would a nurse or a physio be
addressing occupation in the same way as me?  Should they?  I don't
think that considering an individual's occupation solely belongs to OT,
but I do think that it provides our overall practice bias.  And as such,
surely we should be the experts!? Maybe we need some analogies - for
example, there's a difference between being able to wire a plug and an
entire house!  I guess the important thing is to ensure that each
profession is working to benefit the patient and to respect professional
expertise. 
all good wishes
Claire   
   


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Hi Ron:


You are right all states provide some form of regulation of OT in
general, just not licensure (except that there 4 states that do not
regulate
OTAs-
Virginia, New York, Hawaii, and Colorado). In my earlier post I slipped,
I meant licensure to ensure and define our scope of practice. Sorry for
the confusion.

Ron, I think you know by now that I do believe in OT's strength and
scope to be the most effective and efficient contributor to facilitate a
person's independence/ ability to function in accordance to his
developmental stage and per societal norms in daily living/ occupational
tasks (even if they are not daily :-) (life functions- I do like this
word) that he must, should and wishes to indulge in. I do not doubt that
we bring in the 'specialization' to identify and address occupational
limitations, maladaptations and deprivations. Just as PTs bring in the
specialization to address 'physical functions' by 'physical means', and
naturopathists bring in the 'specialization' to address/ fight pathology
and promote health by 'natural' methods, or an MD brings in the
specialization with 'allopathic' methods. We do have a role.....but
again, as the work done by MD may be done by a DO, or that of an ND
(Naturopathic Doctor) by a overzealous DC, most of what a DC does by a
PT... our 'domain' is turfed/ shared by others - PT, nurses, DCs, SLPs,
rec. therapists, etc..

In the general sense of the word, yes 'occupation' is our domain but to
me strictly 'legally' it is not and, I really don't see how it can be.
That is, legally we cannot claim it to ourselves and prevent it from
being practiced by others. The question is not who is the best
qualified, but do others perform it, too. If walking is an occupational
task, it is addressed elsewhere, if sports is an occupation (vocational
or leisure) for an athelete, sports rehab is addressed by someone else
(including the psychosocial aspects of it), if self-care is an important
aspect of occupational performance, nurses have been endorsed by
medicare to do all the teaching and training they want in institutions
or homehealth. Luckily, they have chosen not to or, do not feel
comfortable doing......I was worried with the term ' rehabilitation
nursing', when it first came out as a skillable service under Part A
SNF-PPS.

Since the scope of the word "occupation" is so wide, we will see it
being practiced by others, may be under a different term. In my opinion,
it is more worthwhile to unleash the breadth and scope of the profession
and practice it 'holistically', fully understanding that no one person
can handle all the issues by themselves. You will have a mental health
OT believing (or at least focusing in this area) that OT is all in the
head and limbic sytem, a physical-dysfn./ hand OT believing in the word
that biomechanics is what moves the world that follows the laws of
physics, 
a
hi-tech OT transforming the environment into a spaceship to ensure that
life still floats, a hospice OT believing that OT lies in ensuring that
even death is a 'productive goal' in life...........all still bonded by
a common thread ensuring that life-functions (the occupations of living)
are best facilitated and preserved. The emphasis is on identifying,
addressing/ treating those 'occupations' and it's effect on life. In
different settings the dominance of different factors that affect
occupational performance will
differ- mental (psychopathological/ sociopathological,
neuropsychiatric)
issues or, physical issues ( orthopedic, neurological/ sensori-motor/
neurodevelopmental, cardiovascular), etc., with the need for the
emphasis to shift from one approach to another. So do the skills.

In the medical model, we can just blatantly say it is based upon the
pathology/ disabilty. Or, as OTs have the opportunity to put in
perspective of the client's unique need and place in the social arena.

Again, not 'legally' but I truelly believe our uniqueness lies as the
true 'link' between medical rehabilitation and social rehabilitation ( I
look at SWs as the gateway to social rehab)....how often we act as the
link or the lock is the question.....

Ron thanks for a good debate. Would love to hear others' viewpoints.
Thanks to the ones that did respond to this thread.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:38 AM
Subject: Re[10]: [OTlist] PT does it all!!


> Hello Joe:
>
> Will you further explain your below statement?
>
> I  may  be  wrong, but I believe that all states provide some form of
OT
> regulation. However, not all states provide licensure.
>
> What  is  OT's  unique contribution to healthcare? What is it that we
do
> that no other profession can do better or equally?
>
> Ron
>
>
> ===============================================================
> On 9/6/2003,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> JW> While I hope that "occupation" is our domain, legally we cannot
claim
it as
> JW> ours only. With a couple of states yet to regulate OT in the US,
anybody can
> JW> practice it there. While the principle of occupation has
certainly be
> JW> claimed by our profession- and, "occupation" is what we
"do-mainly",
it is
> JW> not our domain in the strictest legal sense, since it is
practiced
overtly
> JW> or covertly by other professions. (The very topic of our
thread).
>
>
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