Don't feel bad I get answers about 8% of the time. I try to help when I can.
OTRS sells support so more that likely this is the reason why the developers
hardly use this list. They monitor the bug report area more closely because
that affects their bottom line $$. They know that no one will pay for a any
consultation on a buggy application.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
Nernberg
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; otrs@otrs.org
Subject: RE: [otrs] OTRS Webmail client non-functional. REPOST

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Marius Flage
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:43 AM
> To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.org
> Subject: Re: [otrs] OTRS Webmail client non-functional. REPOST
> 
> Mark Nernberg wrote:
> 
> > This is a repost, as there has been no positive response.  This is
> now
> > the FOURTH TIME I am posting!  Getting some reasonable answer would
> be nice.
> 
> And I didn't mind the second and third time you posted this, but
> enough's enough. You're not paying for any kind of support for this
> software, so I don't see how you can expect to get an answer to all
> your
> questions immediately. If you follow the thread of discussion in here,
> you'll see that all questions that people actually know the answer to,
> get responses.
> 

I've noticed that is not always the case.  I don't expect or demand anwers,
but even a clue would be nice.

I also don't expect the answer "immediately".  I've waited a
more-than-respectable amount of time before reposting.

An acknowlegement that there's a problem of some sort in the source would
also be nice.

I've also noticed that at some point at least 2 other people have posted
similar posts at some point -- still with no answers.

Simply saying that "The developers are aware that the webmail client is
BROKEN." would be sufficient.  Ignorance and publicly flaming isn't going to
cut it, though.

> If you're new to the whole GPL idea, I suggest you do some reading. And
> please stop wasting our collective bandwidth with your ongoing -
> demands-
> for support. The kind of support you're asking for usually comes with a
> price [1].

Actually, I'm far from new to the GPL idea.  I've done plenty of reading.
I've checked through the source code and the various mailing list archives.
I've thoroughly read the documentation.  If I had any answers or clues, I'd
follow them.  If I though I had an inkling of where (specifically) the issue
was, I'd be more detailed in my posts -- which might elicit a useful answer.

But, before I pony up $ for paid support, I'd like at least some idea that I
will get what I'm paying for.  The most basic support plan is $1380/year for
support -- which is steep -- especially when this is probably THE ONLY ISSUE
I'M GOING TO HAVE WITH THE SOFTWARE!

The $1380 includes only 5 service calls per year.  That works out to
$276.00/service call.  And I don't understand what I'd get beyond the 5
support requests, so paying for 5 service requests and only getting 1 isn't
worth it.  Perhaps someone needs to revisit the pricing model?  Or provide
more information to demonstrate what I'd be getting for my $1380.00?

Were it $100 for a single support call -- one-time-deal -- I'd consider
paying it.  I might even consider paying $276 for a one-time-call, as steep
as that may be.

Moreso, because there aren't any issues with my configuration -- I'm not
stupid, and I'm a long-time OTRS user -- I call the problem: "the webmail
client is broken and buggy."  I don't pay for support to fix bugs in the
software -- I'll pay for it to fix bugs in my implementation.

It should also be noted that I've even built-from-scratch a second copy of
OTRS on a different server just to verify that it's the software and not my
mail server or anything.  Its almost definitely a bug (IMHO).

> 
> The only thing you're getting from this, if anything, are annoyed
> fellow users of OTRS.
> 

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