If it was better implemented then yeah, Andy, I would agree with you. But the locking system in OTRS doesn't distinguish between "I'm busy working on this" and "I just stuck a note on it then left for lunch".

If I want to lock a ticket I'm working on, you're right the system should allow that. But OTRS requiring a lock to even stick a note on a ticket is absurd.

On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Andy Lubel wrote:
These aren't "stupid" alternatives, more like warnings/caveats from real
world implementations.

"DANGER WILL ROBINSON"

The implications of disabling what some of us consider to be a core
functionality of a multi-user helpdesk system should be presented.

"Fools learn from their own mistakes while the Wise Men learn from the
mistakes of the Fool"

Good luck in whatever choice you make,

Andy



On 10/31/07 8:36 AM, "Mujtaba Karim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Guys leave it if you cant do it then don't suggest stupid alternates
The guy clearly said he needs to disable the lock system

Here is how


In SysConfig, you must disable RequiredLock in these pages

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewBounce

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewClose

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewCompose

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewForward

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewMerge

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewPending

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewPhoneOutbound

Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewPriority



In general, check all ..View.. pages to see wether RequiredLock is enabled.



Then, you can disable the links to locks: unchek

Ticket::Frontend::MenuModule###100Lock:

Ticket::Frontend::MenuModule###400-Owner:

in Frontend::Agent::Ticket::MenuModule

and Frontend::Agent::Ticket::MenuModulePre



I've done these modification and worked fine without locks for a while in
the past





Additionally, you might also want to disable

Frontend::Module###AgentTicketLock:

Frontend::Module###AgentTicketOwner:

in Frontend::Agent::ModuleRegistration

but I don't know if this can cause some issues


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Hi,

Is it posible to let OTRS mail a customer when a external note is made?

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From: Andy Lubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [otrs] Remove lock option from tickets
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How many agents, just you? How many customers? You simply may not have enough of either to justify using a HelpDesk system such as OTRS, which is
geared towards SMB to enterprise customers.

Metrics also translate into SLA's. If you care about the customer then you
would care to see how well you are responding to his needs?

Can you tell me one system/application you do think does a better job of
making it convenient for the agent to work customer submitted issues?

-Andy


On 10/29/07 9:36 PM, "Jo Rhett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Unless you don't care about metrics but instead convenience of
answering the customer.

OTRS makes everything inconvenient, as far as I can tell.

On Oct 26, 2007, at 6:01 AM, Andy Lubel wrote:
i absolutely agree.  people need to own (lock) the tickets they
work on
otherwise certain metrics you would want later cant be gotten. like
time open --> working (locked) --> close.

unless of course you are a 1 man helpdesk :)


-Andy Lubel




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Subject: Re: [otrs] Remove lock option from tickets

Disabling locks is not the way to go imho. Locks are great for
preventing double answers etc (2 people handling the same ticket at
the
same time and giving different answers to the customer for
example :S).
What you problably want is an auto unlock after an answer. What you
can
do is setting the default state after answering a ticket to "closed
succesful", in config:
$Self->{'Ticket::DefaultNextComposeType'} = 'closed successful';

This way a ticket is closed by default after answering. When a new
reply
comes from the customer, it will show in the main queue again,
without a
lock. This way you can share all tickets with all people and only lock
the ticket when you are handling the ticket (and this way prevent
double
handling of same ticket).

Richard
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:00:50 +0000
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Thank you for all your answers, one other question I have:

How do I migrate an older OTRS database to a new installation? The
older one is at version 2.0.4 and i am trying to migrate to 2.2.3.

The older installation was on a OSX Server and the new one will
probably be on a Centos 5 machine with OTRS 2.2.3.

Looking at the manual at http://doc.otrs.org/2.2/en/html/c2528.html,
I'm thinking a simple

/opt/otrs/scripts/backup.pl -d ...

on the the older machine, and then a:

/opt/otrs/scripts/restore.pl ....

on the new box will work?

Thanks for any help,

On 10/28/07, Agim Cami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Otrs runs fine under CentOS.
Actually I use otrs under CentOS 4.4.
So, no need to Install obligatory Suse or Fedora.

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