Thanks for the level of detail, I think I have good news for you!

In Sysconfig you could expose locked tickets via "Ticket Status view" and
that allows you (or any user with rights on the queue) to add a note into a
"locked" ticket owned by another user as well as if you were the owner.

This is part of my sysconfig that exposes that "Ticket Status view" to the
navbar:

$Self->{'Frontend::Module'}->{'AgentTicketStatusView'} =  {
          'NavBar' => [
                        {
                          'Prio' => '110',
                          'Block' => '',
                          'Image' => 'overview.png',
                          'NavBar' => 'Ticket',
                          'Type' => '',
                          'AccessKey' => 'v',
                          'Description' => 'Overview of all open Tickets',
                          'Name' => 'StatusView',
                          'Link' => 'Action=AgentTicketStatusView'
                        }
                      ],
          'GroupRo' => [
                         'StatusViewReaders'
                       ],
          'NavBarName' => 'Ticket',
          'Description' => 'Overview of all open tickets',
          'Title' => 'Status View',
          'Group' => [
                       'SuperAdmin',
                       'admin'
                     ]
        };


Don't just add this into the config.pm.. You can find it in sysconfig..
Somewhere I cant remember :)

If I must I can locate it again but I encourage new admins to rummage
through the 2500 or so configuration/customization options available.

Can you let the list know if that works out for your needs?

-Andy


On 11/7/07 1:24 PM, "Jo Rhett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If it was better implemented then yeah, Andy, I would agree with
> you.  But the locking system in OTRS doesn't distinguish between "I'm
> busy working on this" and "I just stuck a note on it then left for
> lunch".
> 
> If I want to lock a ticket I'm working on, you're right the system
> should allow that.  But OTRS requiring a lock to even stick a note on
> a ticket is absurd.
> 
> On Oct 31, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Andy Lubel wrote:
>> These aren't "stupid" alternatives, more like warnings/caveats from
>> real
>> world implementations.
>> 
>> "DANGER WILL ROBINSON"
>> 
>> The implications of disabling what some of us consider to be a core
>> functionality of a multi-user helpdesk system should be presented.
>> 
>> "Fools learn from their own mistakes while the Wise Men learn from the
>> mistakes of the Fool"
>> 
>> Good luck in whatever choice you make,
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/31/07 8:36 AM, "Mujtaba Karim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Guys leave it if you cant do it then don't suggest stupid alternates
>>> The guy clearly said he needs to disable the lock system
>>> 
>>> Here is how
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In SysConfig, you must disable RequiredLock in these pages
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewBounce
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewClose
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewCompose
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewForward
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewMerge
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewPending
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewPhoneOutbound
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewPriority
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In general, check all ..View.. pages to see wether RequiredLock is
>>> enabled.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then, you can disable the links to locks: unchek
>>> 
>>> Ticket::Frontend::MenuModule###100Lock:
>>> 
>>> Ticket::Frontend::MenuModule###400-Owner:
>>> 
>>> in Frontend::Agent::Ticket::MenuModule
>>> 
>>> and Frontend::Agent::Ticket::MenuModulePre
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've done these modification and worked fine without locks for a
>>> while in
>>> the past
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Additionally, you might also want to disable
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Module###AgentTicketLock:
>>> 
>>> Frontend::Module###AgentTicketOwner:
>>> 
>>> in Frontend::Agent::ModuleRegistration
>>> 
>>> but I don't know if this can cause some issues
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mujtaba Karim
>>> Customer Support Manager
>>> PixSense Inc.
>>> 172/P 3rd Floor Block-2 PECHS Tariq Road Karachi 75400 Pakistan
>>>  C: 92.300.821.8601 | F: 92.21.432.2721-4 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:50:34 +0100
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [otrs] Let OTRS mail external notify
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is it posible to let OTRS mail a customer when a external note is
>>> made?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Henry,
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:31:51 -0400
>>> From: Andy Lubel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [otrs] Remove lock option from tickets
>>> To: "User questions and discussions about OTRS.org" <otrs@otrs.org>
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>>> 
>>> How many agents, just you?  How many customers?  You simply may
>>> not have
>>> enough of either to justify using a HelpDesk system such as OTRS,
>>> which is
>>> geared towards SMB to enterprise customers.
>>> 
>>> Metrics also translate into SLA's. If you care about the customer
>>> then you
>>> would care to see how well you are responding to his needs?
>>> 
>>> Can you tell me one system/application you do think does a better
>>> job of
>>> making it convenient for the agent to work customer submitted issues?
>>> 
>>> -Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/29/07 9:36 PM, "Jo Rhett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Unless you don't care about metrics but instead convenience of
>>>> answering the customer.
>>>> 
>>>> OTRS makes everything inconvenient, as far as I can tell.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2007, at 6:01 AM, Andy Lubel wrote:
>>>>> i absolutely agree.  people need to own (lock) the tickets they
>>>>> work on
>>>>> otherwise certain metrics you would want later cant be gotten.
>>>>> like
>>>>> time open --> working (locked) --> close.
>>>>> 
>>>>> unless of course you are a 1 man helpdesk :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Andy Lubel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Richard Hinkamp - BeSite
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:06 AM
>>>>> To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [otrs] Remove lock option from tickets
>>>>> 
>>>>> Disabling locks is not the way to go imho. Locks are great for
>>>>> preventing double answers etc (2 people handling the same ticket at
>>>>> the
>>>>> same time and giving different answers to the customer for
>>>>> example :S).
>>>>> What you problably want is an auto unlock after an answer. What you
>>>>> can
>>>>> do is setting the default state after answering a ticket to "closed
>>>>> succesful", in config:
>>>>> $Self->{'Ticket::DefaultNextComposeType'} = 'closed successful';
>>>>> 
>>>>> This way a ticket is closed by default after answering. When a new
>>>>> reply
>>>>> comes from the customer, it will show in the main queue again,
>>>>> without a
>>>>> lock. This way you can share all tickets with all people and
>>>>> only lock
>>>>> the ticket when you are handling the ticket (and this way prevent
>>>>> double
>>>>> handling of same ticket).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
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>>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:00:50 +0000
>>> From: kerneljack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [otrs] RE: what is the best linux distro in my
>>> situation?
>>> To: "User questions and discussions about OTRS.org" <otrs@otrs.org>
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>>> 
>>> Thank you for all your answers, one other question I have:
>>> 
>>> How do I migrate an older OTRS database to a new installation? The
>>> older one is at version 2.0.4 and i am trying to migrate to 2.2.3.
>>> 
>>> The older installation was on a OSX Server and the new one will
>>> probably be on a Centos 5 machine with OTRS 2.2.3.
>>> 
>>> Looking at the manual at http://doc.otrs.org/2.2/en/html/c2528.html,
>>> I'm thinking a simple
>>> 
>>> /opt/otrs/scripts/backup.pl -d ...
>>> 
>>> on the the older machine, and then a:
>>> 
>>> /opt/otrs/scripts/restore.pl ....
>>> 
>>> on the new box will work?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> 
>>> On 10/28/07, Agim Cami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Otrs runs fine under CentOS.
>>>> Actually I use otrs under CentOS 4.4.
>>>> So, no need to Install obligatory Suse or Fedora.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Agim Cami
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