______________________________We were not impacted in Canada as our abundant Maple Syrup and other shielding cliches provided protection from the storm.
---Mike
On 2/22/2024 2:36 PM, Steele, John via Outages wrote:
That is bull. I'm a HAM and we have had R3's many times and nothing like that happened. She has no clue.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:01 PM Lederer, Linda via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
______________________________Haha neither do I but look at the source of that Tweet.
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I don’t buy it!
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Subject: Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a time, where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on the network) was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to register on their network (which is what cellular devices will do when it can’t register). But it cleared up quickly.
Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users who can’t contact AT&T users.
Sterling Jaynes
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A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting to call individuals on AT&T. In two cases of individuals I talked to they had full voice and data. I haven't seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected.
Example from news:
> Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier.
> T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using e-sims instead.
(Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need to work with a backwards carrier).
I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of them were also mentioned).
An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.
Owen
On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Agreed!
After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack thereof).
Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected.
On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by humans. At least for now….. 😊
-richey
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