Hi Ilya, Ben

What is the plan to manage MAC addresses of DPDK ports with representors?
The solution should be generic and support non bifurcated drivers.
Currently we cannot integrate DPDK with port representors in platforms
 such as open stack.

Thanks,
Roni
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roni Bar Yanai
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 1:24 PM
>To: Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@ovn.org>; Ophir Munk
><ophi...@mellanox.com>; Ben Pfaff <b...@ovn.org>
>Cc: Eveline Raine <eveli...@mellanox.com>; d...@openvswitch.org; Moshe Levi
><mosh...@mellanox.com>; Adrian Chiris <adri...@mellanox.com>; Majd Dibbiny
><m...@mellanox.com>; Ameer Mahagneh <ame...@mellanox.com>
>Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/1] vswitchd: Allow setting MAC on DPDK interfaces
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@ovn.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:28 PM
>>To: Ophir Munk <ophi...@mellanox.com>; Ben Pfaff <b...@ovn.org>; Ilya
>>Maximets <i.maxim...@ovn.org>
>>Cc: Eveline Raine <eveli...@mellanox.com>; d...@openvswitch.org; Moshe
>>Levi <mosh...@mellanox.com>; Adrian Chiris <adri...@mellanox.com>; Majd
>>Dibbiny <m...@mellanox.com>; Roni Bar Yanai <ron...@mellanox.com>;
>>Ameer Mahagneh <ame...@mellanox.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] vswitchd: Allow setting MAC on DPDK interfaces
>>
>>On 08.01.2020 11:48, Ophir Munk wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> There is an important use case for having OVS change MAC addresses of
>>> dpdk
>>interfaces.
>>> OpenStack for example needs to update the MAC address of a VF
>>> assigned to a
>>VM, where the corresponding VF representor is owned by dpdk.
>>> For some NIC vendors using "ifconfig" or "ip" commands - is not an
>>> option (if the
>>NIC is not bifurcated).
>>> Therefore OpenStack should use the OVS API to set the MAC address for
>>> dpdk
>>interfaces.
>>> Along with Ben's explanation it seems right to only allow "internal" or 
>>> "dpdk"
>>port types to set the MAC.
>>
>>There are still same issues for DPDK ports.  Just because OVS doesn't
>>necessarily "owns" them.  In case of Mellanox NICs, ports are still could be
>configured by 'ip'
>>tool due to bifurcated drivers.  And this produces the same confusion.
>>
>This makes it hard to integrate OVS-DPDK in cloud with port representor. There 
>Is
>no way to configure MAC address for untrusted VM. If the driver is bifurcated
>there is some WA,  but this is not a generic solution and will not be used.
>Any thoughts on how we can configure MAC for untrusted VM on such
>topologies?
>>>
>>> Testing both patches [1] and [2] - passed successfully.
>>> Acked-by: Ophir Munk <ophi...@mellanox.com>
>>>
>>> I hope patches [1] and [2] can be merged to master.
>>>
>>> [1]
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>>>
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>>> ("[ovs-dev,1/1] vswitchd: Allow setting MAC on DPDK interfaces")
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ben Pfaff <b...@ovn.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 2:26 AM
>>>> To: Ilya Maximets <i.maxim...@ovn.org>
>>>> Cc: Eveline Raine <eveli...@mellanox.com>; d...@openvswitch.org;
>>>> Moshe Levi <mosh...@mellanox.com>; Adrian Chiris
>>>> <adri...@mellanox.com>; Ophir Munk <ophi...@mellanox.com>; Majd
>>>> Dibbiny
>><m...@mellanox.com>;
>>>> Roni Bar Yanai <ron...@mellanox.com>; Ameer Mahagneh
>>>> <ame...@mellanox.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] vswitchd: Allow setting MAC on DPDK
>>>> interfaces
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 03:56:59PM +0100, Ilya Maximets wrote:
>>>>> Ben, do you see any other drawbacks that we should handle if we'll
>>>>> allow changing MAC addresses for non-internal ports?  Or, maybe
>>>>> some issues with my logic?
>>>>
>>>> It can cause surprises for interactions with regular system tools.
>>>> Anyone who uses "ip" or "ifconfig" to change the MAC will find it
>>>> changed back later (perhaps not immediately).  And if you un-set it
>>>> in the database, OVS doesn't know what to change it back to.
>>>>
>>>> These drawbacks aren't there in the same way for devices that OVS "owns"
>>>> like internal devices or dpdk devices.  Well, I guess they are for
>>>> OVS internal devices to some extent, but for those OVS has some
>>>> responsibility to pick a reasonable MAC address to begin with.  If
>>>> OVS doesn't, then it causes confusion of its own through things like
>>>> having a machine's MAC address change if you create a bridge and
>>>> move a physical NIC onto it.  We had lots of experience with that early on 
>>>> with
>OVS.
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