I want the libvert/KVM/QEMU VMs that I currently create that "hook" into an OVN
overlay network using the libvert 'openvswitch' network  to work in the same
OVN overlay Network with the various Logical Switches, routers Gateways, NAT rules ACLs etc to work as is except that they bypass br-int and go to the SmartNIC. So somehow the OVS flows that OVN creates in br-int, will need to be implemented on
the smart NIC.

It is not just enough to have the smart NIC do the encapsulation, the OVN Logical Gateways do various NAT and routing operations, the OVN Logical switches have various ACLs rules for security. etc. If traffic by-passes br-int and goes directly to the SmartNIC All these still need to be "honored" by the smart NIC . Like I said I though I saw a Mellanox presentation that talks about doing something like this with representor ports. But I don't know
the details.


On 15/02/2022 17:27, Tony Liu wrote:
OVN is virtual networking implementation.
With OpenStack Neutron, follow the doc, VM will directly connect to NIC VF.
I don't see OVN integration is needed.

It's another story if you want connectivity between OVN-based VM and
SRIOV-based VM.

Tony
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Yes but how is that integrated into OVN?

On 15/02/2022 16:41, Tony Liu wrote:
SRIOV connects VM directly to NIC VF and bypasses virtual networking stack.
SmartNIC is another story where virtual networking stack can be installed on 
the NIC.
SRIOV is supported by Neutron.
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/xena/admin/config-sriov.html__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!eHoUiPE3yK4G7wru3NHOe4xZEY8JZCTBMzsMhhoNnkr7oZQDSf-4QrFyS4Y5t7g5lTU$

Tony
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Kinda looking for at a high level yes it is possible and is integrated into
ovn control plane, or  not not there yet. At a high level first.
And is anyone doing this.


On 15/02/2022 14:03, Satish Patel wrote:
Not sure if this is what you are looking for
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.nvidia.com/networking/display/TAN10/ASAP*OVS*Offload__;Kys!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!dFnukkvR8ggDcHotwyqXNVu8B3dWlc7LBGXbc5fECYqHdok6NIeoKkz5aSlp-RCKC10$

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 5:47 AM Brendan Doyle <brendan.do...@oracle.com> wrote:
Hi,

I'm trying to understand if OVN supports SR-IOV. I found some OpentStack
documentation:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/charm-deployment-guide/wallaby/app-ovn.html*configuration__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!dFnukkvR8ggDcHotwyqXNVu8B3dWlc7LBGXbc5fECYqHdok6NIeoKkz5aSlpwu75q1Q$
that suggests it might, but it is short on details, with specifics
abstracted via the OpenStack CMS.

Also in the OVN Architecture documentation there are hints to support:

"For  instances  connected through  representor  ports, typically used
with hardware
      offload, the ovn-controller may on CMS direction  consult   a  VIF
plug provider for
      representor port lookup and plug   them into the integration bridge
(please refer  to
     Docu mentation/topics/vif-plug-providers/vif-plug-providers.rst for
more information)."

But again short on details.

So I believe something like a CX-5/6/7 would have the capability to do
this, but here would have to be some
sort of OVN hook for the OVS flows created by OVN  to be "copied/moved"
to the H/W so that encapsulation,
NAT, distributed routing ACLs etc is done in the hardware. I can't find
any details on this nor what would the
control plane for programing the hardware be to do that, ovn-nbctl?,
ovsdbapp? some other out of band control plane?.
Also from what I gather from the OpenStack docs this seems experimental
and limited to VXLAN encapsulation?

At present I use a libvirt OVN hook that hooks KVM/QEMU VMs into OVN
br-int but these are using
software VIFs. I'm trying to ascertain if can have these VM use SR-IOV,
and still have them integrated
into the OVN logical networks.


Any pointers would welcome.

Thanks


Brendan

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