On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Mohd Hidzuan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Saya cadangkan kepada sesiapa yang ada snapshot screen dan data yang telah
> dimuat turun itu .. apa kata pi hantar email kat PTPTN mana tahu depa nak
> hire Sec Auditor kah.. ramai kat sini boleh pun.. kalu dapat upah .. apa
> salahnya.. kita makan besar ramai2.. pekena kambing golek kah.. amacam?
>
>
File deleted. Rasanya ada orang ptptn monitor mailist ni atau ada orang dah
report kat diorang.




>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Hazrul Hamzah <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  I guess as long as we keep on seeing security as a product -
>> firewall/IDPS/WAF/etc instead of a process of maintaining an acceptable of
>> perceived risk, we will keep on encounter this kind of problem. Even now and
>> then, people keep on searching the silver bullet solution for their security
>> posture, hence the idiotic IDS vs IPS kind of argument thingy.. SIgh
>>
>>
Yes. very true. Policy is the most important thing, but some gov agencies
rather buy the most expensive IPS (about RM200k-300k) with RM58k annual
license than hire Information Security guys, and IPS is not working
out-of-the-box anyway. They think,

IPS = secured!

In this case, it's about admin/programmer stupidity, it's not about
intrusion. very2 membazir duit rakyat.





>
>>
>> On 14/10/2010 17:29, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:
>>
>> The 4 magic word!!!!
>>
>>  Assessment
>> Protection
>> Detection
>> Response
>>
>>  Yeah i agree with that.. We are lacking of this 4 magic word for IT
>> staff. Sometime im feeling are we enough do  all this task or we miss out
>> some of this task or we dont understand what the task for it. I think this
>> is a time that all the IT department must have IS audit to their all IT
>> infrastructure and the IT management. Bank or many critical company have
>> done IS audit because their have policy they must comply. It a time to them
>> have policy about IS audit for  government agencies, private and others
>> organisation to comply the ISO  requirement for their IT department. IT
>> audit is a not new word for others country but in Malaysia it like a new
>> child born that everybody must aware on it.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:54 PM, fenris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> rahezar :) wink wink ....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Rahezar Rahmat <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh I see.. Patut ler :P
>>>>
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