With regards to the last one - does IsolatedStorage work for you? -----Original Message----- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:18 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device
Yeh there's a few frustrations with the end user SDK. My list includes, (but not limited to) is: - no way to get list of contacts from the phone itself - no support for vcard or ical etc (although this surfaces more in the user interface not being able to accept or attach vcard to text messages) - no shared data or files I'm hoping for improvements there. The first one is a real killer if you want to write any app that deals with people. |-----Original Message----- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Chris Walsh |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:01 PM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | |Yeah, they've been saying "it's coming" for years. | |Bill, | |For ringtones, the support is in the Silverlight App Model, but there |is no way to |access the Ringtones folder in the end user SDK, it's included in the Native SDK. |We've got access to the Capability in the WMAppManifest |"ID_CAP_RINGTONE_ADD" but as I said, you can't access the folder. | |-----Original Message----- |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 11:55 AM |To: ozDotNet |Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device | |I did see a twitter post (in response to me asking about Zune pass) |that it was |coming, but no timeframe on when. | |On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Simon Reed |<simon.spectre.l...@gmail.com> |wrote: |> Speaking of Zune is there a timeline for Zune pass or music coming to Aus? |> |> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Bill McCarthy <b...@totalenviro.com> wrote: |>> |>> Use Zune on the PC for marketplace ;) |>> |>> |-----Original Message----- |>> |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet- |>> |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Simon Reed |>> |Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 12:48 AM |>> |To: ozDotNet |>> |Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device |>> | |>> |Does anyone know if marketplace/downloads are metered content |>> |through Telstra I know Telstra One is unmetered and thought maybe |>> |marketplace |>> could |>> |be the same as you can add the cost of apps to the mobile bill? |>> |(probably |>> just |>> |wishful thinking) |>> | |>> | |>> |On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Stephen Price |>> |<step...@littlevoices.com> |>> |wrote: |>> | |>> | |>> | I seem to be averaging about 3Mb per day. I've used 45Mb of |>> |my 512Mb |>> | data. I use it for general browsing and dont limit anything |>> |like |>> | pictures or anything. I do have it hooked up to wifi at home |>> |and |>> at |>> | work so that would help reduce actual 3G bandwidth used. |>> | |>> | 500Mb should be plenty. Its mostly twitter and facebook |>> | which is |>> text |>> |mostly. |>> | |>> | |>> | On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, .net noobie |>> |<dotnetnoo...@gmail.com> wrote: |>> | > Stephen, do you have it all setup for getting the services |>> |and |>> photos |>> |etc? |>> | > do you have any issues with blowing your data limits or |>> |you |>> don't |>> know |>> |yet? |>> | > |>> | > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Stephen Price |>> |<step...@littlevoices.com> |>> | > wrote: |>> | >> |>> | >> I was on Optus with my iphone. I got the shits with them |>> |in the |>> end, |>> | >> the number of times I'd be in the city and it would be |>> | giving |>> me |>> a |>> | >> GPRS connection (no 3G) drove me crazy. |>> | >> |>> | >> Telstra have finally become competitive with their |>> | pricing. My |>> HTC |>> | >> Mozart is costing me $49 a month with nothing to pay for |>> | the |>> phone. |>> | >> Optus was/is $79 a month. I gave my iphone to my daughter |>> |(no credit |>> | >> topups for her for a while she's got a $350 limit). It |>> |was way |>> to |>> much |>> | >> to break the Optus contract and pay out the phone. |>> | >> |>> | >> Love the Mozart, its a nice phone. My only complaint is |>> | there |>> doesnt |>> | >> seem to be a way to make the screen lock after a period |>> | of |>> time. |>> it |>> | >> locks or it doesnt. iphone could lock after 10 mins. |>> | >> |>> | >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:26 PM, .net noobie |>> |<dotnetnoo...@gmail.com> |>> | >> wrote: |>> | >> > How bad is the Optus network really |>> | >> > |>> | >> > I really only intend on being in a city, never really |>> |going |>> to |>> be in the |>> | >> > country |>> | >> > the optus plans just seem to give alot more then |>> | telstra on |>> the |>> data |>> | >> > side |>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter, |>> |LinkedIn, MySpace, |>> | >> > eBay |>> | >> > and Foursquare4 |>> | >> > this could reduce the data your paying for with the |>> |built in |>> features |>> | >> > alot.... |>> | >> > or is all the data going to actually coming from |>> | windows live |>> and |>> | >> > therefore |>> | >> > this will not help you reduce the data your consuming? |>> | >> > |>> | >> > I would mostly just be using twitter and maybe Facebook |>> |sometimes if |>> | >> > someone |>> | >> > sent me a message or something |>> | >> > |>> | >> > Minimum Monthly Spend $79 |>> | >> > Total Monthly Value Up to $9001 |>> | >> > Included Data 3GB2 or Unlimited BIS + 1GB 2 on |>> |BlackBerry handsets |>> | >> > Voicemail deposits & retrievals Unlimited3 |>> | >> > Bonus Unlimited mobile access to Facebook, Twitter, |>> |LinkedIn, MySpace, |>> | >> > eBay |>> | >> > and Foursquare4 |>> | >> > Standard National SMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited |>> | >> > Standard National MMS(excl Pivotel) unlimited |>> | >> > Call rate $0.90 per minute |>> | >> > National Video call rate $1 per minute plus 35c flagfall |>> | >> > International Video call rate $1.50 per minute plus 35c |>> flagfall |>> | >> > 13/1300 call rate $0.90 per minute + $0.35 Flagfall |>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call |>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB |>> | >> > Connection Fee 35c per call |>> | >> > Excess Data Usage 10c per MB |>> | >> > Inclusions Standard Aust local, national, GSM mobile, |>> | video |>> calls, |>> | >> > voicemail |>> | >> > and 13/1300 calls & standard SMS, MMS to Aust GSM |>> | mobile, and |>> | >> > international |>> | >> > SMS |>> | >> > |>> | >> > 1 Pay the first Business Complete Ultimate plan worth |>> | of |>> included |>> |value |>> | >> > each |>> | >> > billing period after which these services are free up |>> |to a |>> maximum |>> |of |>> | >> > your |>> | >> > selected plans "Included Cap Value" per billing period. |>> | >> > 2 Mobile Internet Data Value: can be used to access |>> |services |>> on |>> |Optus |>> | >> > Zoo, |>> | >> > browsing the Internet from your mobile, as well as |>> |using your mobile as |>> | >> > a |>> | >> > modem. If you elect to take the Business Advantage BMB |>> service |>> |the plans |>> | >> > included mobile data value can be shared. Excess usage |>> charges |>> of |>> |$0.10 |>> | >> > per |>> | >> > MB or part thereof apply (Includes uploads and downloads). |>> Data |>> |usage |>> | >> > will |>> | >> > be counted in kilobytes, where 1024KB = 1MB and |>> |includes both uploads |>> | >> > and |>> | >> > downloads. Any unused data allowance cannot be rolled over. |>> |Unlimited |>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 & Browsing: only applies for POP3 email |>> traffic |>> |and |>> | >> > internet |>> | >> > browsing through the BlackBerry Browser and |>> |specifically |>> excludes |>> |use of |>> | >> > the |>> | >> > Optus Zoo Browser and International Roaming. Customers |>> |must have a |>> | >> > BlackBerry or BlackBerry Connect handset to access this |>> service. |>> | >> > Unlimited |>> | >> > BlackBerry POP3 email and browsing is subject to the |>> | Optus |>> Mobile |>> |Fair |>> | >> > GoTM |>> | >> > policy. The BlackBerry and RIM families of related |>> |marks, |>> images |>> |and |>> | >> > symbols |>> | >> > are the exclusive properties of and trademarks or |>> |registered trademarks |>> | >> > of |>> | >> > Research In Motion Limited used by permission. |>> | >> > 3 Unlimited Voicemail: Applies to Voicemail Deposits |>> |and Retrievals, |>> | >> > diversion charges apply. |>> | >> > 4 Unlimited Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, MySpace, eBay |>> |& |>> |Foursquare: |>> | >> > Only |>> | >> > available within Australian and requires compatible handset. |>> Use of |>> | >> > these |>> | >> > services is separate and does not count towards your |>> |included "Mobile |>> | >> > Internet Data". Cannot be used with your Optus Mobile |>> Broadband |>> |(OMB) or |>> | >> > Business Mobile Broadband (BMB) device/s and excludes |>> |use of Facebook |>> | >> > SMS or |>> | >> > other social media alert services. These features are |>> |only |>> available |>> |to |>> | >> > you |>> | >> > if your handset is compatible with the service. Optus |>> |Mobile |>> Fair |>> |GoTM |>> | >> > Policy applies. |>> | >> > |>> | >> > |>> | >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Nick Randolph |>> |<n...@builttoroam.com> |>> | >> > wrote: |>> | >> >> Chris, beg to differ on the warranty front - |>> | >> >> http://www.mobicity.com.au/extras/warranty.html |>> | >> >> |>> | >> >> Nick Randolph | Built to Roam | Microsoft MVP - |>> |Windows |>> Phone |>> | >> >> Development |>> | >> >> | +61 412 413 425 |>> | >> >> The information contained in this email is |>> | confidential. If |>> you are |>> |not |>> | >> >> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use |>> |the information in |>> | >> >> this |>> | >> >> email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the |>> integrity |>> |of any |>> | >> >> emails or attached files. The views or opinions |>> |expressed |>> are |>> the |>> | >> >> author's |>> | >> >> own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built |>> | To |>> Roam. |>> | >> >> |>> | >> >> -----Original Message----- |>> | >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com |>> | >> >> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] |>> | >> >> On Behalf Of Chris Walsh |>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:16 PM |>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet |>> | >> >> Subject: RE: [OT] WP7 Handset/device |>> | >> >> |>> | >> >> I am, but really depends on if you want an Australian |>> warranty |>> |etc... |>> | >> >> If |>> | >> >> you purchase it from MobiCity the phones don't have an |>> |AU warranty. |>> | >> >> |>> | >> >> I'd suggest getting it outright via Telstra. Or if |>> |you want |>> a |>> plan, |>> | >> >> get |>> | >> >> it on via Telstra, free on a $49 plan, and the phones |>> | are |>> unlocked |>> |by |>> | >> >> default. |>> | >> >> |>> | >> >> -----Original Message----- |>> | >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com |>> | >> >> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] |>> | >> >> On Behalf Of .net noobie |>> | >> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:11 PM |>> | >> >> To: ozDotNet |>> | >> >> Subject: Re: [OT] WP7 Handset/device |>> | >> >> |>> | >> >> Chris, so you are suggesting the HTC Mozart, is best |>> |model |>> to |>> get? |>> | >> >> |>> | >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM, .net noobie |>> |<dotnetnoo...@gmail.com> |>> | >> >> wrote: |>> | >> >>> http://www.mobicity.com.au/phone- |>> |categories/smartphones/windows/window |>> | >> >>> s-phone.html?order=price&dir=asc |>> | >> >>> |>> | >> >>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Chris Walsh |>> |<ch...@walshie.me> wrote: |>> | >> >>>> Really depends on what network you're wanting to use |>> |it |>> on. |>> If |>> |its |>> | >> >>>> Telstra, there are only TWO in the US that use the |>> |850Mhz |>> 3G |>> |band, |>> | >> >>>> the |>> | >> >>>> Samsung Focus & the HTC Surround. |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> If it is on Optus, Three or Voda, they use the |>> |2100Mhz & 900Mhz 3G |>> | >> >>>> bands, so you're pretty much set on 7 out of the 9 |>> |launch devices |>> | >> >>>> support |>> | >> >>>> those bands. |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> The REAL device apart from the HTC Mozart is the |>> |Dell |>> Venue |>> |Pro, but |>> | >> >>>> it |>> | >> >>>> isn't on the 850Mhz band, but has Gorilla Glass, |>> |AMOLED screen, |>> | >> >>>> expansive |>> | >> >>>> memory & portrait slider. |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> -----Original Message----- |>> | >> >>>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com |>> | >> >>>> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of |>> |.net noobie |>> | >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 9:56 PM |>> | >> >>>> To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com |>> | >> >>>> Subject: [OT] WP7 Handset/device |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> Does anyone know where you can buy a WP7 |>> |Handset/device outright |>> | >> >>>> without |>> | >> >>>> a plan? |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> Telstra are selling them I think but there price is |>> |pretty |>> high |>> |and |>> | >> >>>> only have 2 phones |>> | >> >>>> |>> http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2010/10/telstra-sets-outright- |>> |buy-prices |>> | >> >>>> -for-windows-phone-7-handsets/ |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> What do people think about buying a handset from |>> |overseas |>> to |>> |try and |>> | >> >>>> get |>> | >> >>>> a better price? |>> | >> >>>> e.g. AT&T are selling phones for 199.99 USD, but I |>> |don't |>> know |>> |the |>> | >> >>>> details as in it this is on some kind of plan or |>> |just the |>> handset |>> | >> >>>> outright? |>> | >> >>>> or if the handset will be locked to AT&T etc... |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> I like the look of the "Samsung Omnia 7" from Optus |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> the The "HTC Mozart", has a better camera 8 Mega |>> | Pixel |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> what models do people think is best and why? |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> in the US there is a "Samsung Focus" which people |>> | seem to |>> like |>> |a lot, |>> | >> >>>> is |>> | >> >>>> the "Samsung Omnia 7" basically the same/Australian |>> version? |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> Is there going to be any advantage to getting a |>> | phone on a |>> plan, |>> | >> >>>> rather |>> | >> >>>> then getting a handset and putting in my own Sim card? |>> | >> >>>> e.g. will the phone company have any extra features |>> | I will |>> not |>> |get if |>> | >> >>>> I |>> | >> >>>> just put in my own Sim card? |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> these are/seem to be the options for Australian |>> |handsets |>> | >> >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en- |>> |au/buy/7/phones.aspx#mode=al |>> | >> >>>> l as I said above I like the "Samsung Omnia 7" so |>> |any |>> comments |>> |on why |>> | >> >>>> I should or should not choose a different model |>> |would be |>> great |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>>> thanks noobie |>> | >> >>>> |>> | >> >>> |>> | >> >> |>> | >> > |>> | >> > |>> | > |>> | > |>> | |>> | |>> |>> |> |>
