To change tack a little, what in your opinion would be the top issues that have 
led to the relatively poor uptake of Windows Phone over the last three years ?


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|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
|Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:33 AM
|To: ozDotNet
|Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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|Constrained: Metro style apps can use a subset of the Win32 and COM API. This
|subset of APIs was chosen to support key scenarios for Metro style apps that
|were not already covered by the Windows Runtime, HTML/CSS, or other
|supported languages or standards. The Windows App Certification Kit ensures
|that your app uses only this subset of the Win32 and COM API.
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|Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone
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|-----Original Message-----
|From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:11 AM
|To: 'ozDotNet'
|Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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|Supported.
|http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br205756.aspx
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||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:04 AM
||To: 'ozDotNet'
||Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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||And directX is ?
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|||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
|||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 11:03 AM
|||To: ozDotNet
|||Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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|||Right, but surely WinRT apps can themselves be written in native code,
|||they just can't reference any non-winrt components?
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|||Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone
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|||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 10:54 AM
|||To: 'ozDotNet'
|||Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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|||I thought Windows RT only allowed WinRT apps with the exception of the
|||preloaded Office.
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||||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
||||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
||||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 10:45 AM
||||To: ozDotNet
||||Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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||||Not sure I follow "Windows RT" isn't encouraging native apps?
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||||Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows Phone
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||||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
||||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
||||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 10:41 AM
||||To: 'ozDotNet'
||||Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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||||I'd like to think those discussions were had in private forums before
||||MS made it all public yesterday.
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||||Re: developer advice, I thought MS also made it clear the new native
||||support was to make it easier for apps to port over from iOS and
||||Android. The existing 7.5 (soon to be 7.8) market is small. Last I
||||heard was < 2%, and that figure will drop not grow; that is it has
||||now reached its
|||peak.
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||||It'll be interesting to see when the SDK is available what's what.
||||I'm still unclear if there will be WinRT on the phone. It also seems
||||funny to me that the phone is encouraging native apps, but Windows RT isn't.
||||The developer story still is not clear to me
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|||||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|||||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
|||||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 10:32 AM
|||||To: ozDotNet
|||||Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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|||||Bill, don’t get me wrong I share the same frustations (was on a call
|||||with the phone team at 3am this morning talking about it). The
|||||upshot is that if we want to support Windows Phone we need to build
|||||guidance to assist developers build for 7.x (which will work across
|||||wp8) unless they specifically want to leverage wp8 functions.
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|||||Nick Randolph | Built to Roam Pty Ltd | Microsoft MVP – Windows
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|||||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
|||||boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bill McCarthy
|||||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 10:29 AM
|||||To: 'ozDotNet'
|||||Subject: RE: Windows Phone 8 announced
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|||||Yeh yeh, I know "suck it up princess" ;)
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|||||The issue is out in the public, from gizmodo, engadget, Wall Street
|||||journal etc etc; we, and Microsoft can't hide from that. They need
|||||to come out with a better story, a better explanation, or both.
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||||||From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
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||||||boun...@ozdotnet.com <mailto:|boun...@ozdotnet.com> ] On Behalf Of
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||||||Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 10:24 AM
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||||||We vented yesterday, now to get on with business. Public posts like
|||||
||||||this don't help a bad situation, they just make it worse. Accept
||||||what
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||||||is, and move on - complaining isn't going to change what's going to
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||||||My Friday venting:
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