So, in all the below, who actually needs to access Office apps, and how often, and why?
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 11:55 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Is Surface really failing? On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote: From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013 11:49 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Is Surface really failing? Office. Seriously?!? I could understand why you might want to run Win2k12 as a desktop and have office. But generally when you remote into a server, it’s not your desktop – it’s an actual server you wouldn’t be running Office on it. And yes. We've got servers set up to do builds, which run tests after, some of which are office integration. Because you don't want it, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. Seriously. And running your integration tests involves someone manually logging onto a server using RDP and running Office apps? That doesn’t seem to be very efficient to me. Surely this can be automated using your testing suite? It is automated. don't jump to conclusions. I can understand that you might have to configure Office (assuming you don’t have a build system that does this for you), but surely that’s a one-off type operation? THe integration requires Outlook to be present. And in Production (rather than your test environment) this is going to be even less common. But if you seriously need to use Office interactively often on your server, then I suspect it’s not a common case (so I don’t think it really detracts from the point I was making that the Start screen isn’t really that important on Win2k12), but if you need to do it, pin the Office apps to the Task Bar. To reiterate, getting to the Start screen isn’t really something that needs to be done often on Win2k12. I’m not saying “no one needs to do this, ever” More often than you'd imagine.