So, in all the below, who actually needs to access Office apps, and how often, 
and why?



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On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:


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Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013 11:49 PM

To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Is Surface really failing?

Office. Seriously?!? I could understand why you might want to run Win2k12 as a 
desktop and have office. But generally when you remote into a server, it’s not 
your desktop – it’s an actual server you wouldn’t be running Office on it.

And yes.  We've got servers set up to do builds, which run tests after, some of 
which are office integration.  Because you don't want it, doesn't mean everyone 
doesn't.  Seriously.

And running your integration tests involves someone manually logging onto a 
server using RDP and running Office apps? That doesn’t seem to be very 
efficient to me. Surely this can be automated using your testing suite?

It is automated.  don't jump to conclusions.


I can understand that you might have to configure Office (assuming you don’t 
have a build system that does this for you), but surely that’s a one-off type 
operation?


THe integration requires Outlook to be present.

And in Production (rather than your test environment) this is going to be even 
less common.

But if you seriously need to use Office interactively often on your server, 
then I suspect it’s not a common case (so I don’t think it really detracts from 
the point I was making that the Start screen isn’t really that important on 
Win2k12), but if you need to do it, pin the Office apps to the Task Bar.

To reiterate, getting to the Start screen isn’t really something that needs to 
be done often on Win2k12. I’m not saying “no one needs to do this, ever”


More often than you'd imagine.

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