Yes, I was going to raise that with you off-list Mike. The ones I know of are the (Android) Slate 7 range and the ElitePad 800 and 900 (Win8 and Win8Pro) – quite a different price bracket, though. I didn’t know there was a Windows8 Slate (WinRT ?).
_____ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 12:13 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks *I* have to smile at HP releasing Slate with either Android or Windows8 on it. (disclaimer, yes, I work for HP, and this isn't an official HP opinion, but a personal one) Mike On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ian Thomas <il.tho...@iinet.net.au> wrote: It’s Greek to me J - but was Scott subconsciously associating designs (skeumorphs) with stock keeping units (SKUs)? But aren’t all Apple designs perfect? I have to smile at the grudging praise of Microsoft Surface (the hardware) by the Apple fanbois. _____ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:33 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Nice quote. Google says it's skeuomorphism though. (what kind of language puts euo in that order???) Mike On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Scott Barnes <scott.bar...@gmail.com> wrote: iOS7 is what happeneded the night of Steve Jobs funeral as they all sat in a bar listening to Whitesnake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJk0HW_hJw) doing lines of cocaine and suddenly reliving your 80's and after then upgrading your digital skuemorphism to the next circle of design hell ... 80's iOS ..it's the mullet Steve would have wanted. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't get Apple design. How could the designers of OSX have come up with a dog like iOS? Mike On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Scott Barnes <scott.bar...@gmail.com> wrote: VS2012 design could have been worse.. Apple could have designed it :) http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/780667831.jpg?1371031013 --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ian Thomas <il.tho...@iinet.net.au> wrote: Greg, Greg – I put it down to the UIX guru / fiend that obviously exerted great influence over the PMs and higher-ups in Microsoft. I can’t stand Office 2013 – I appreciate some features, but find some of the behaviours and the UI itself just counter-productive (ie, anti my productivity). I don’t think I am resistant to change. I removed it, in favour of Office 2010 (incidentally, I never used Office2007 and took to the ribbon OK). There is another VS2012 hack that I omitted – NiceVS. It overlaps with one of the other hacks that I listed. NiceVS http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a36021f0-770a-4258-854e-724e9d12b8a6 I hate to have to do these things. _____ Ian Thomas Victoria Park, Western Australia From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:30 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2012 hacks Ian (et al), I have also taken a lot of steps recently to restore old colours and behaviour to recent Microsoft product releases. I don't normally do that. We all expect complaints when new versions of products are released, but in my experience the noise quickly drops away and people just accept the changes and run with them. However, the amount of stubborn resistance recently has been quite startling. Why is this happening? Microsoft is dragging us all along with it on some sort of global style change where there is less chrome, fewer borders, less saturated colour, fewer lines, etc. Now I can honestly understand this because the eye and brain work better with less clutter, but it all seems to have gone too far (remember the first preview of Visual Studio 2012 that looked like a charcoal etching?). Is there some department or research within Microsoft that is driving this trend? Do they explain their reasoning? Where did they recruit the drugged gibbons they put through the usability testing? And then there's Windows 8 ... Greg -- Meski <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills -- Meski <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills -- Meski <http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills