I think the real message here is - forget the language, just don't work for
Nelson's senior. Stubborn a**h**** are not confined to any particular
language. :)

On 13 October 2015 at 14:14, Nelson <nelson.honey...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My concern here (regarding the job offer) is not about the language use.
>
> i cannot stress enough how a pain in the a** it can be when working with
> seniors who are reluctant to change and adopt newer better technology.
>
> And as a Junior in the team you are basically screwed, especially you
> started your training with all the modern tech and tools.
>
>
>
> I had a hard time convincing my senior to switch to ASP.NET MVC from
> WebForms.
>
> although that turn out may not be the best idea - he still code like
> WebForms way in MVC
>
> anyway he still thinks WebForms is superior and can do stuff MVC cant do
> till this date.... unfortunately
>
>
>
> you can also imagine how your ideas got banned just because you are the
> junior and he play the experience game with you.
>
> even though that experience translate to sticking to 10-20 years old
> libraries when there are modern, much more popular alternatives
>
> (the best example i think of right now is that he is still using his copy
> of a 1997 alpha version of date.js library - probably thats the time he
> started learning js?)
>
>
>
> I'm not saying VB.NET people are all stubborn and old. but the
> probability of having to work with a**h*** is just much higher than i like.
>
> After all, it won't be a cultural fit for me personally as i'm a
> state-of-the-art person and would love to work with new technology
>
>
> On 13 October 2015 at 13:53, Bill McCarthy <
> bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Although there’s lots of c ‘style’ languages, the devil is always in the
>> details/differences. I find it hard to switch between c# and js and not
>> forget/mess up. With vb.net and js not so much a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> The same use to be said for vb and vbscript in days of asp
>>
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>>
>> *From: *David Burstin
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 13 October 2015 1:41 PM
>> *To: *ozDotNet
>> *Subject: *Re: vb.net
>>
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>>
>> I started my .net journey with vb.net, but these days I code C# unless I
>> have to use vb for working with a legacy system.
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with Bill - there really isn't much difference between using the
>> languages in .net. In fact, knowing my way around the .net framework (from
>> having used it with vb) made the transition to c# much easier.
>>
>>
>>
>> BUT, outside the .net world, I have found my knowledge of C# has helped
>> me in reading (and learning) other languages - eg java, js, ruby. These all
>> have a syntax which is far more like c# than vb.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, if you can only use one language, for me it would be C# - but there
>> is no reason at all that you should be confined to one language. If you are
>> interested in the job, than go for it. Whatever happens, you will learn.
>> Any job provides an opportunity to practice our craft and become better
>> programmers. Plus, you can do projects after hours in whatever language you
>> want :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 October 2015 at 13:33, Bill McCarthy <
>> bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> wrote:
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>>
>> This usually a great rant starter for a Friday conversation.
>> Realistically though Vb.net is much a muchness with c# on .net. Definitely
>> the best language if doing integrated xml. With late binding stuff it has
>> some advantages with better conversions, but also disadvantages such as
>> wider scope.
>>
>>
>>
>> Realistically the biggest disadvantage of vb.net is if you want to
>> integrate some large source code from open licence stuff... usually more is
>> available in c#.
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>>
>> *From: *Tom P
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 13 October 2015 12:48 PM
>> *To: *ozDotNet
>> *Subject: *vb.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Guys I've been offered a junior dev job but they insist on vb.net only.
>> Does anyone know what is happening with vb.net going forward? I would
>> hate to get stuck into the vb.net world and have it killed off within a
>> few years.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tom
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