I think the real message here is - forget the language, just don't work for Nelson's senior. Stubborn a**h**** are not confined to any particular language. :)
On 13 October 2015 at 14:14, Nelson <nelson.honey...@gmail.com> wrote: > My concern here (regarding the job offer) is not about the language use. > > i cannot stress enough how a pain in the a** it can be when working with > seniors who are reluctant to change and adopt newer better technology. > > And as a Junior in the team you are basically screwed, especially you > started your training with all the modern tech and tools. > > > > I had a hard time convincing my senior to switch to ASP.NET MVC from > WebForms. > > although that turn out may not be the best idea - he still code like > WebForms way in MVC > > anyway he still thinks WebForms is superior and can do stuff MVC cant do > till this date.... unfortunately > > > > you can also imagine how your ideas got banned just because you are the > junior and he play the experience game with you. > > even though that experience translate to sticking to 10-20 years old > libraries when there are modern, much more popular alternatives > > (the best example i think of right now is that he is still using his copy > of a 1997 alpha version of date.js library - probably thats the time he > started learning js?) > > > > I'm not saying VB.NET people are all stubborn and old. but the > probability of having to work with a**h*** is just much higher than i like. > > After all, it won't be a cultural fit for me personally as i'm a > state-of-the-art person and would love to work with new technology > > > On 13 October 2015 at 13:53, Bill McCarthy < > bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> wrote: > >> >> >> Although there’s lots of c ‘style’ languages, the devil is always in the >> details/differences. I find it hard to switch between c# and js and not >> forget/mess up. With vb.net and js not so much a problem. >> >> >> >> The same use to be said for vb and vbscript in days of asp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *David Burstin >> *Sent: *Tuesday, 13 October 2015 1:41 PM >> *To: *ozDotNet >> *Subject: *Re: vb.net >> >> >> >> >> >> I started my .net journey with vb.net, but these days I code C# unless I >> have to use vb for working with a legacy system. >> >> >> >> I agree with Bill - there really isn't much difference between using the >> languages in .net. In fact, knowing my way around the .net framework (from >> having used it with vb) made the transition to c# much easier. >> >> >> >> BUT, outside the .net world, I have found my knowledge of C# has helped >> me in reading (and learning) other languages - eg java, js, ruby. These all >> have a syntax which is far more like c# than vb. >> >> >> >> So, if you can only use one language, for me it would be C# - but there >> is no reason at all that you should be confined to one language. If you are >> interested in the job, than go for it. Whatever happens, you will learn. >> Any job provides an opportunity to practice our craft and become better >> programmers. Plus, you can do projects after hours in whatever language you >> want :) >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On 13 October 2015 at 13:33, Bill McCarthy < >> bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> This usually a great rant starter for a Friday conversation. >> Realistically though Vb.net is much a muchness with c# on .net. Definitely >> the best language if doing integrated xml. With late binding stuff it has >> some advantages with better conversions, but also disadvantages such as >> wider scope. >> >> >> >> Realistically the biggest disadvantage of vb.net is if you want to >> integrate some large source code from open licence stuff... usually more is >> available in c#. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Tom P >> *Sent: *Tuesday, 13 October 2015 12:48 PM >> *To: *ozDotNet >> *Subject: *vb.net >> >> >> >> >> >> Guys I've been offered a junior dev job but they insist on vb.net only. >> Does anyone know what is happening with vb.net going forward? I would >> hate to get stuck into the vb.net world and have it killed off within a >> few years. >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >