C++ is the Only Way. And get off my v-lawn! :)
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:19 PM, David Burstin <david.burs...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think the real message here is - forget the language, just don't work > for Nelson's senior. Stubborn a**h**** are not confined to any particular > language. :) > > On 13 October 2015 at 14:14, Nelson <nelson.honey...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My concern here (regarding the job offer) is not about the language use. >> >> i cannot stress enough how a pain in the a** it can be when working with >> seniors who are reluctant to change and adopt newer better technology. >> >> And as a Junior in the team you are basically screwed, especially you >> started your training with all the modern tech and tools. >> >> >> >> I had a hard time convincing my senior to switch to ASP.NET MVC from >> WebForms. >> >> although that turn out may not be the best idea - he still code like >> WebForms way in MVC >> >> anyway he still thinks WebForms is superior and can do stuff MVC cant do >> till this date.... unfortunately >> >> >> >> you can also imagine how your ideas got banned just because you are the >> junior and he play the experience game with you. >> >> even though that experience translate to sticking to 10-20 years old >> libraries when there are modern, much more popular alternatives >> >> (the best example i think of right now is that he is still using his copy >> of a 1997 alpha version of date.js library - probably thats the time he >> started learning js?) >> >> >> >> I'm not saying VB.NET people are all stubborn and old. but the >> probability of having to work with a**h*** is just much higher than i like. >> >> After all, it won't be a cultural fit for me personally as i'm a >> state-of-the-art person and would love to work with new technology >> >> >> On 13 October 2015 at 13:53, Bill McCarthy < >> bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Although there’s lots of c ‘style’ languages, the devil is always in the >>> details/differences. I find it hard to switch between c# and js and not >>> forget/mess up. With vb.net and js not so much a problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> The same use to be said for vb and vbscript in days of asp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *David Burstin >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 13 October 2015 1:41 PM >>> *To: *ozDotNet >>> *Subject: *Re: vb.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I started my .net journey with vb.net, but these days I code C# unless >>> I have to use vb for working with a legacy system. >>> >>> >>> >>> I agree with Bill - there really isn't much difference between using the >>> languages in .net. In fact, knowing my way around the .net framework (from >>> having used it with vb) made the transition to c# much easier. >>> >>> >>> >>> BUT, outside the .net world, I have found my knowledge of C# has helped >>> me in reading (and learning) other languages - eg java, js, ruby. These all >>> have a syntax which is far more like c# than vb. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, if you can only use one language, for me it would be C# - but there >>> is no reason at all that you should be confined to one language. If you are >>> interested in the job, than go for it. Whatever happens, you will learn. >>> Any job provides an opportunity to practice our craft and become better >>> programmers. Plus, you can do projects after hours in whatever language you >>> want :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13 October 2015 at 13:33, Bill McCarthy < >>> bill.mccarthy.li...@live.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This usually a great rant starter for a Friday conversation. >>> Realistically though Vb.net is much a muchness with c# on .net. Definitely >>> the best language if doing integrated xml. With late binding stuff it has >>> some advantages with better conversions, but also disadvantages such as >>> wider scope. >>> >>> >>> >>> Realistically the biggest disadvantage of vb.net is if you want to >>> integrate some large source code from open licence stuff... usually more is >>> available in c#. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Tom P >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, 13 October 2015 12:48 PM >>> *To: *ozDotNet >>> *Subject: *vb.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Guys I've been offered a junior dev job but they insist on vb.net only. >>> Does anyone know what is happening with vb.net going forward? I would >>> hate to get stuck into the vb.net world and have it killed off within a >>> few years. >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
