Totally agree.

We need to make lots of noise and let them know.

We all know first hand that the driving forces of software often puts stability 
lower down the list than new features.

I think the downside of more frequent releases means less fear around releasing 
bugs. Because they can always fix them when we (the users) find them for them.

Not ideal for us, the unpaid testers.

On 13 Dec. 2017 11:12 am, Nick Randolph <[email protected]> wrote:

But that’s no excuse for breaking stuff….. enough said.



Both Windows and Visual Studio need to slow down, focus on stability and 
performance, before shipping any new features. Greg’s experience (and he’s not 
alone as I’ve seen reports from others with the same issue) is not acceptable; 
neither are the repeated drops of VS where perf sux or stability is an issue.



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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Wednesday, 13 December 2017 2:09 PM
To: ozDotNet <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Big Windows 10 update



What we are experiencing is not a new thing. Change is constant. Each new 
release of software, for all things, comes with new bug fixes, new bugs and new 
features. Some we need some we don't.

The pain we are feeling is a combination of lack of control combined with the 
frequency of these changes.

Once upon a time we had to wait several years for a new release (take Visual 
Studio as an example). Now we see new updates weekly and sometimes daily.

Hopefully the pain we feel is shorter lived as a result. We can communicate 
with the Devs much easier now. Often we can see the name of the developer who 
checked in the code. We can comment on the codebase and raise issues.

Take the recent icon colour change of VScode for example. For those who were 
not watching, they changed the colour to orange (or green depending on the 
branch). People were NOT happy. The Devs listened and in about a week or maybe 
two it was back to the familiar colour.

Imagine having to wait 2 years to get your icon colour fixed or some other life 
altering bug.

You can't make everyone happy all of the time. We are all at the whim of the 
developers of the code we use. If you don't like that, you have options. 
Feedback or change software. Or write your own.

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change how you 
think of it.



Hmm, might make this a blog post.



On 13 Dec. 2017 9:10 am, David Connors 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 at 10:08 Grant Maw 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Never thought I'd ever see myself switching to Linux but I have to say that I'm 
starting to look very, very hard at it, for all the reasons that Mike and the 
Gregs have outlined above. I just wonder if I REALLY need to learn a new OS at 
my age ... life is too short :)



I bought a chromebox on a lark a while back.



It said it needed a new OS so I clicked reboot. OS installation and reboot was 
~10 seconds.



Le Sigh.



I was boned by one of these updates in a customer meeting. It half installs 
before it wants to reboot and that took out my WiFi. Windows said it wanted to 
reboot - sure fine. 1 hour later...



David.



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