I remember when I first started using c++ (late 80s, early 90s, somewhere around there) it seemed really cool. Especially after C. Now, I can't imagine ever using it again. To hear how it's changed kind of annoys me for nostalgic reasons but ultimately will never have an effect on my daily life. If I wanted to go lower than C#, I'd use C. The last time I used C was at least 10+ years ago programming microcontrollers for a robot. It's fun in a "hardcore mode" kind of way but higher level languages are more satisfying in terms of what you can achieve in a reasonable time.
David Richards On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 11:18, Greg Harris <harris.gre...@gmail.com> wrote: > If I was going to use C++ > I would not! > > I would use C# and use C for the small parts that had to be fast. > > I have not touched C for 25 years, not going to change > > :-) > > Greg Harris > harris.gre...@gmail.com > phone: 0407 942 982 > Baulkham Hills > NSW 2153 > > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:20 AM Grant Maw <grant....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would need a very good reason to choose C++ to write a new project >> today, a reason like needing to be close to the metal or needing very >> fine-grained control over performance, memory usage, and other resources. >> So things like writing a new OS, device drivers, high end computer games >> and other graphics-intensive scenarios possibly. But for me that is never, >> all my work is LOB stuff. >> >> .Net core more than satisfies all my current (and foreseeable) >> requirements, and takes care of all the internal plumbing for me. I can't >> imagine a scenario where I would need something other than c# or f# for the >> sort of work I do. >> >> >> On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 15:28, Greg Keogh <gfke...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Folks, It's quiet in here because I suppose you're all in lockdown >>> guarding your mountains of bog-roll. I've got a TGIF contribution... >>> >>> A colleague was discussing how to write the most transportable C++ code >>> possible and sent links to C++ 17 features >>> <https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/5262072/Cplusplus-17-New-Features-and-Trick> >>> and C++ 20 upcoming. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B20> These >>> articles quite shocked and angered me. I wrote C++ for 10 years until about >>> 2003 (when .NET mercifully replaced it my LOB style work). I quite enjoyed >>> C++ at the time, but after looking at those articles I'm quite angry that >>> C++ has become one of the worst victims of feature-creep I have ever seen. >>> It's like the C++ steering committee are suffering from an inferiority >>> complex and have fought back by adding every feature of every other modern >>> language into it. It's an insane jumble of the old low-level C-like >>> language with bits of LINQ, C#, Rust and Haskell. The syntax of the std:: >>> libraries is so cryptic it looks like a maths puzzle. >>> >>> Just what category of language has C++ become? What is it supposed to be >>> best at? Why would I pick C++ to write a LOB app? What does Bjarne think >>> about all this? >>> >>> There must be a huge number of developers globally using C++, but what >>> are they doing with it that requires such a bloated and complex language? I >>> haven't met a C++ developer in the last 15 years that can answer that >>> question. >>> >>> *Greg K* >>> >>
