Still using c++ here... But templates get freaking annoying. If it's a new project, I'm unlikely to pick c++. Even for low level microcontroller apps, there's better choices. Eg python.
Mike On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 11:40 David Richards <ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com> wrote: > I remember when I first started using c++ (late 80s, early 90s, somewhere > around there) it seemed really cool. Especially after C. Now, I can't > imagine ever using it again. To hear how it's changed kind of annoys me for > nostalgic reasons but ultimately will never have an effect on my daily life. > If I wanted to go lower than C#, I'd use C. The last time I used C was at > least 10+ years ago programming microcontrollers for a robot. It's fun in a > "hardcore mode" kind of way but higher level languages are more satisfying > in terms of what you can achieve in a reasonable time. > > David Richards > > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 11:18, Greg Harris <harris.gre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If I was going to use C++ >> I would not! >> >> I would use C# and use C for the small parts that had to be fast. >> >> I have not touched C for 25 years, not going to change >> >> :-) >> >> Greg Harris >> harris.gre...@gmail.com >> phone: 0407 942 982 >> Baulkham Hills >> NSW 2153 >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:20 AM Grant Maw <grant....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I would need a very good reason to choose C++ to write a new project >>> today, a reason like needing to be close to the metal or needing very >>> fine-grained control over performance, memory usage, and other resources. >>> So things like writing a new OS, device drivers, high end computer games >>> and other graphics-intensive scenarios possibly. But for me that is never, >>> all my work is LOB stuff. >>> >>> .Net core more than satisfies all my current (and foreseeable) >>> requirements, and takes care of all the internal plumbing for me. I can't >>> imagine a scenario where I would need something other than c# or f# for the >>> sort of work I do. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 15:28, Greg Keogh <gfke...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Folks, It's quiet in here because I suppose you're all in lockdown >>>> guarding your mountains of bog-roll. I've got a TGIF contribution... >>>> >>>> A colleague was discussing how to write the most transportable C++ code >>>> possible and sent links to C++ 17 features >>>> <https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/5262072/Cplusplus-17-New-Features-and-Trick> >>>> and C++ 20 upcoming. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B20> These >>>> articles quite shocked and angered me. I wrote C++ for 10 years until about >>>> 2003 (when .NET mercifully replaced it my LOB style work). I quite enjoyed >>>> C++ at the time, but after looking at those articles I'm quite angry that >>>> C++ has become one of the worst victims of feature-creep I have ever seen. >>>> It's like the C++ steering committee are suffering from an inferiority >>>> complex and have fought back by adding every feature of every other modern >>>> language into it. It's an insane jumble of the old low-level C-like >>>> language with bits of LINQ, C#, Rust and Haskell. The syntax of the std:: >>>> libraries is so cryptic it looks like a maths puzzle. >>>> >>>> Just what category of language has C++ become? What is it supposed to >>>> be best at? Why would I pick C++ to write a LOB app? What does Bjarne think >>>> about all this? >>>> >>>> There must be a huge number of developers globally using C++, but what >>>> are they doing with it that requires such a bloated and complex language? I >>>> haven't met a C++ developer in the last 15 years that can answer that >>>> question. >>>> >>>> *Greg K* >>>> >>>
