And the same recruiters with those duplicate ads expect exclusivity from
you.

Mike

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 21:19 Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote:

> I do start with the job boards. Seek and Linked in first. Most companies
> these days put their own ad up and then recruiters come along and put the
> same ad up with their name on it. Sometimes you see 4 or 5 ads for the same
> job. Quite annoying. And the majority of recruiter jobs otherwise probably
> don't exist. But occasionally you find a recruiter that does find you real
> work and they're the ones you give your time to if you can't find work
> yourself. Some of them are real slime balls though.
>
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 9:40 pm Tom P, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If not recruiters, where do you start looking for work? Personally I’ve
>> found it very difficult to find work but obviously many factors are
>> involved.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 21:25, Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yea I get that. That's why I said it depends who's at the other end. Tbh
>>> I'm pretty sick of recruiters. They are a dime a dozen. I think at one
>>> stage about 20% of my linked list was recruiters. My thinking was that I
>>> might need them one day. But I have culled them significantly, down to a
>>> few remaining agents that I believe add value. I don't often start with
>>> recruiters when I'm looking for work, they take too much of a cut for
>>> adding very little value.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 9:17 pm DotNet Dude, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Tony,
>>>>
>>>> Tom’s original question was about the recruiter asking for this info
>>>> which is quite different from the bank you’re working for. Financial
>>>> institutions do ask for the things you mention but I’d be suspicious and
>>>> hesitant to pass info like that to a silly old recruiter.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve never been comfortable with systems like WorkPro, particularly
>>>> with credit files, which they let you just download as a PDF so the
>>>> recruiter can easily forward. Not cool at all.
>>>>
>>>> The whole recruitment model and the systems they use really needs a
>>>> revamp to protect user privacy and security. I’m not convinced they are
>>>> secure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 20:33, Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Really? At the bank I have had sign over a right for them to receive
>>>>> every contact note for any shares I buy or sell. I also have to submit
>>>>> requests to buy or sell shares. That's an Apra requirement. I'm also not
>>>>> allowed to have directorships in more than one company, and it has to be 
>>>>> an
>>>>> approved directorship. So it really does depend on who it is and what it
>>>>> means to you. A credit check to ensure that you aren't susceptible to
>>>>> bribery might be reasonable too depending on who it is. If it's some 
>>>>> random
>>>>> numpty, sure, tell them to get stuffed, but some places really do need
>>>>> extra checks on their staff.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 8:25 pm David Connors, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally, I'd decline given the circumstances you've described. It
>>>>>> would be like asking for this information from an employee and
>>>>>> inappropriate if not probably illegal in the context of an FTE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Connors
>>>>>> [email protected] | M +61 417 189 363
>>>>>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:20, Tom P <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes as an individual contractor so I did find it very odd. I’ve
>>>>>>> asked for a reason so let’s see what they come back with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:06, David Connors <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you're doing this as an individual contractor on a work for hire
>>>>>>>> / hourly basis then this is pretty strange.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even as a company, we almost always decline disclosure of financial
>>>>>>>> information on the basis that we're privately held and send whoever is
>>>>>>>> asking a letter of solvency from our tax accountants instead (they just
>>>>>>>> want to know we're not going to go bust - but that's a very strange
>>>>>>>> consideration if you're an individual contractor).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Connors
>>>>>>>> [email protected] | M +61 417 189 363
>>>>>>>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 18:32, Tom P <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi folks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the experienced contractors here who may know...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am in the process of starting a new contract and the recruitment
>>>>>>>>> agent has requested access to my credit file (via WorkPro). Is this 
>>>>>>>>> normal?
>>>>>>>>> I’ve only had one contract in the past and the credit check was not 
>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>> AFAIK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My credit file is clean so that’s not an issue but it contains
>>>>>>>>> sensitive information such as my credit card limits, etc, so I’m 
>>>>>>>>> hesitant
>>>>>>>>> to release it unless absolutely necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
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