You need to network more. It is not uncommon for our customers to ask us if
we know a dev, pm etc and I refer on people I know.

Also get out to user groups ... Companies often stick their hand up at them
saying they're hiring.

On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 9:40 pm, Tom P <[email protected]> wrote:

> If not recruiters, where do you start looking for work? Personally I’ve
> found it very difficult to find work but obviously many factors are
> involved.
>
> Cheers
> Tom
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 21:25, Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yea I get that. That's why I said it depends who's at the other end. Tbh
>> I'm pretty sick of recruiters. They are a dime a dozen. I think at one
>> stage about 20% of my linked list was recruiters. My thinking was that I
>> might need them one day. But I have culled them significantly, down to a
>> few remaining agents that I believe add value. I don't often start with
>> recruiters when I'm looking for work, they take too much of a cut for
>> adding very little value.
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 9:17 pm DotNet Dude, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Tony,
>>>
>>> Tom’s original question was about the recruiter asking for this info
>>> which is quite different from the bank you’re working for. Financial
>>> institutions do ask for the things you mention but I’d be suspicious and
>>> hesitant to pass info like that to a silly old recruiter.
>>>
>>> I’ve never been comfortable with systems like WorkPro, particularly with
>>> credit files, which they let you just download as a PDF so the recruiter
>>> can easily forward. Not cool at all.
>>>
>>> The whole recruitment model and the systems they use really needs a
>>> revamp to protect user privacy and security. I’m not convinced they are
>>> secure.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 20:33, Tony Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really? At the bank I have had sign over a right for them to receive
>>>> every contact note for any shares I buy or sell. I also have to submit
>>>> requests to buy or sell shares. That's an Apra requirement. I'm also not
>>>> allowed to have directorships in more than one company, and it has to be an
>>>> approved directorship. So it really does depend on who it is and what it
>>>> means to you. A credit check to ensure that you aren't susceptible to
>>>> bribery might be reasonable too depending on who it is. If it's some random
>>>> numpty, sure, tell them to get stuffed, but some places really do need
>>>> extra checks on their staff.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021, 8:25 pm David Connors, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'd decline given the circumstances you've described. It
>>>>> would be like asking for this information from an employee and
>>>>> inappropriate if not probably illegal in the context of an FTE.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Connors
>>>>> [email protected] | M +61 417 189 363
>>>>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:20, Tom P <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes as an individual contractor so I did find it very odd. I’ve asked
>>>>>> for a reason so let’s see what they come back with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 19:06, David Connors <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're doing this as an individual contractor on a work for hire
>>>>>>> / hourly basis then this is pretty strange.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even as a company, we almost always decline disclosure of financial
>>>>>>> information on the basis that we're privately held and send whoever is
>>>>>>> asking a letter of solvency from our tax accountants instead (they just
>>>>>>> want to know we're not going to go bust - but that's a very strange
>>>>>>> consideration if you're an individual contractor).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Connors
>>>>>>> [email protected] | M +61 417 189 363
>>>>>>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 18:32, Tom P <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi folks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the experienced contractors here who may know...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am in the process of starting a new contract and the recruitment
>>>>>>>> agent has requested access to my credit file (via WorkPro). Is this 
>>>>>>>> normal?
>>>>>>>> I’ve only had one contract in the past and the credit check was not 
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>> AFAIK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My credit file is clean so that’s not an issue but it contains
>>>>>>>> sensitive information such as my credit card limits, etc, so I’m 
>>>>>>>> hesitant
>>>>>>>> to release it unless absolutely necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>
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