Dear Maureen, Thank you for your comments and support.
It is very interesting to read this, as my 1st (as I have just mentioned in previous message) was Keillands - in 1999. When Cate's doc said "You can have Keillands, but we don't do those anymore", I wondered if what was really meant was that he didn't like doing them. (I also felt briefly like I was forced to endure some outdated and extremely dangerous procedure - mind you it wasn't very nice, and in reality has its dangers which all of these interventions do!) I guess you can only do what you can do on the day with whomever is there. And from the doc's answer last Wednesday, Keillands WAS an option, but you could see he didn't want to do it, and much preferred to C-sec. I guess weighing up the pretty much inevitable episiotomy, and forceps marking on the baby and unsubstantiated risks of forceps birth to baby, vs the risks of surgery to the mother, there's a lot to consider either way. With my #1 I lost a litre of blood (and narrowly escaped being transfused) from my badly torn episiotomy (not PPH) so it was no walk in the park for me or bubs. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Questions > I realise this is a bit late in coming, but for my two cents worth...here goes. > My last baby, now 5, was also posterior. Two hours of second stage, jumping > around, squatting, on and off the loo etc.etc.etc. Anyway, finally requested a > kelliands rotation which did the trick. She was a very easy forceps delivery > once in the right position, and I feel I could have pushed her out. During my > mid training it was common to see a kelliands rotation and then a normal birth. > often it is simply that the head is deflexed and once the bub is turned flexion > occurs and down comes baby. Drs are very reluctant to do anything other than a > vacuum or Caesar. Forceps can cause damage to both mother and baby if not > applied correctly. I knew I had a good doctor. Remember too that not everything > in this life goes the way we think it should. I would rather have seen c/s than > some of the mangled vaginal births. You did a great job. Maureen -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
