Dear All
It is wonderful to be discussing these issues so the mail out has been
positive.

I accept the college should and needs to find other sources of income.
Perhaps as part of this debate we need to give our college some ideas about
what we as member s think are viable and ethical means to do so ?

For example if we have an article about induction in an issue perhaps some
one should invite all producers of related products to advertise in that
issue ?
Similalry if do perineal repair the glove, and suture material and
instrument makers could ALL be asked to advertise??

I realise the current members of the executive are over loaded with work so
do we employ some one regarding the publications if so could this be part of
their gambit?

As I said some ideas to address our concerns should be put forward,
discussed and submited to ACMI
by concerned members
Denise Hynd
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynne Staff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil mailout


> What I am reading into this is that the College did not have any part in
> sending a list of ACMI member details to this firm? Am I correct, or have
I
> missed something here? If the rep from this company said she obtained the
> list through the College hiring it out, and Vanessa has said that the ACMI
> refuses to sell its mailing list to anyone, what exactly has happened
here?
> As members we do have a right to know.
>
> If the ACMI has sent on the brochures, as a means by which its members can
> be informed about new products relating to maternity care, why this
> particular product? I am sure there are many more 'worthy' medications
that
> are of greater interest, ethically more acceptable (but probably do not
> generate as much revenue) and utilised more appropriately than this one is
> sure to be.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carol Thorogood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil mailout
>
>
> > Dear all
> > I too was a bit concerned about the list's e-mails over the Cervidil so
I
> thought I'd go straight to el presidento and ask Vanessa herself. As is
her
> wont she responded by phone within two hours and so here's a summary  of
her
> response.
> >
> > Despite many requests to do so and the profits involved the ACMI refuses
> to sell its mailing list to anyone.    What it does do if it thinks there
> are good professional and ethical reasons to do so (for example  the
recent
> Ant D mail out sent  to all of us) is to arrange for the organisation to
> send the ACMI the brochures and envelopes etc. Incidently the ACMI will
not
> support mail outs for stuff that contravenes WHO code etc. It vets all the
> requests for mail outs very carefully to make sure they fit the ACMI's
Code
> of Ethics.
> >
> > The ACMI then sends the stuff out themselves.  Usually organisations
such
> as the ACMI charge for the work this service involves. By the way Nurses
> Boards in Oz follow exactly the same policy.
> >
> > the rest of this e-mail is from me.  I hope this allays fears that
members
> of the ACMI are going to be inundated with ads.  I understand that
Cervidil
> may be out of the range of community midwives' scope of practice but in
all
> likelihood ( whether they want to or not) the majority of oz-list members
> will be using it sooner rather than later. Thus I think Cervidil falls
into
> the range of 'ethical products' which I think we need to be informed
about.
> I suppose if members object to this system then they can ask that their
name
> be withdrawn from all mailing lists!   Having said this it is probably too
> hard for the ACMI to determine which bits we want to be told about and
which
> bits we don't. In other words we get it all or none!
> >
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> >
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