We are at 62 Netherton St Nambour QLD 4560. Phone 07 5450 4359 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Willoughby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Info on Selangor Hospital
> Could I have some details please on where Selangor Hospital is? > Thanks > Julia Willoughby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wayne and Caroline McCullough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:52 PM > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald > > > > Lynne, this is so true and especially so for certain religious groups. > > For instance, As a Christian I was brought up believing that labour was > > a curse becaue Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden. When I was pregnant > > with Daniel I found out that this was a false interpretation of the > > scripture with "pain" actually meaning "work". Basically, the story goes > > that God told Eve labour would be hard work not a living hell but > > somehow the idea of pain took hold! Sadly, many women still think of > > labour this way, (even my mother who had one entirely pain free, drug > > free birth) and sadly, they see a caesarean as a way to avoid this > > "curse". > > > > Strange though it may seem, this thinking permeates our Western culture. > > Another point that exacerbates this is that we don't share stories and > > we don't birth in communities anymore. Women used to birth surrounded by > > the other women in their lives. We take off for the hospital with bag in > > hand. Our mothers birthed in hospitals and jumped through whatever > > ridiculous hoops the doctors made them jump through and many came out of > > it having had very undignified and disempowering experiences thinking > > that was just the way things were. > > > > I don't know how we can change this perception when so few women > > actually get to experience a totally natural delivery. Even if induced a > > woman still considers her labour "natural" and thus thinks it hurts to > > bejeebus. I think books like the one Sarah Buckley is currently working > > on will help alter that perception but it will take a lot of information > > campaigning to change a paradigm that has existed for several > > generations. > > > > This SMH article has deeply disturbed me and yet, many normal average > > people would wonder what all the fuss is about because they see > > caesareans as normal and pain free. I guess we just have to keep > > chipping away a the block and hope that someone listens and exposes > > these trials for what they are... Nazi experiments! > > > > Feeling quite hot under the collar... > > > > Cas. > > > > Ps: I still have pain from my scar and epidural after 5.5 months! That's > > not exactly pain free is it? > > > > Cas McCullough > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.casmccullough.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Staff > > Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2003 9:45 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] C/S in Sydney Morning Herald > > > > > > "there is this trial which gives you a 50-50 chance of totally avoiding > > all this pain........" A father-to-be I saw the other day, whose wife > > has had 2 caesareans (and is having the devil of a time finding anyone > > to support her for a planned vaginal birth), made the very pertinent > > point that 'natural' (read vaginal) birth is ALWAYS portrayed as the > > worst pain a woman can ever have - too terrible to contemplate, > > unbearable and totally avoidable, while the portrayal of caesarean birth > > is ALWAYS pain-free, peaceful, smiles all round.....etc > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
