Hi Dianne,
I'm not sure whther it could help, but my book Parenting By Heart has a
beautiful twins birth story(plus the awful lead up) - mum (a GP) had her
first baby at a birth centre and was desperately upset to discover that risk
management for twins (her next pregnancy) was an epidural and forceps. Her
partner was studying obstetrics at the time and she had called every ob in
Melbourne hearing pretty much the same story. By mid pregnancy she couldnt
stop crying she was so upset, then luckily discovered Bruce
Sutherland -chose her own midwife and ended up with a natural birth,
acupuncture administered by hubby for pain relief.

Its a lovely first person story that may ring some bells and help inspire a
bit of confidence to your client - she already has the midwife! Perhaps
because both these parents are doctors themselves it may help her see that
all "medical" people dont necessarily take a "medical approach and if she
feels she would like to speak with this mum I am sure she would be happy to
offer support..

Pinky
www.pinky-mychild.com

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From: "Sue Cookson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Twins question


> It certainly sounds like the ob is rubbing his hands together waiting for
> his c/section fee!! Probably by his management, his twins do arrive in 4
> hours, hauled out or cut out.
>
> I've been around probably 6 sets of twins in my time, and also have John
> Stevenson's data on 12 sets he was involved with - mostly all at home. The
> labours are as unpredictable and unique as any labour is, but there is a
bit
> of a pattern to the time between the births of the two. In John's 12 sets,
> the majority of second babies arrived within 20 minutes of the first. An
> hour later was the next usual time between, and then there were a few
> further apart than that. In one of the sets I was around, the babies were
> born 23 hours apart!!
>
> As far as size of babies and length of pregnancy goes, there is the usual
> variation, with quite a number of twins arriving 3 weeks early, but also
> some going over term. The first set I was privileged to attend were born
at
> 42 weeks, and were 7lb 2oz and 8lb 1oz. John's sets had similar ranges.
>
> Sounds like this poor woman will need heaps of work to balance her fears
> after each visit to the ob. Better still, she should ditch him altogether
or
> he will continue to undermine her trust and faith in herself totally. Is
she
> hoping to birth them normally?
>
> Hope this helps,
> Sue
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I need to ask your advice again if you don't mind. I saw my twins couple
> > again tonight and the mum was very tense. They had just gone to see
their Ob
> > and he discussed the birth with them.
> >
> > 1.  He has told them that they must head for the hospital as soon as she
is
> > in labour as twins usually arrive in around 4 hours???? Is this correct
or
> > an Ob's                 imagination gone wild.
> >
> > 2. He also told her that she would be given an epidural when she was at
> > 4cms and forceps would be used to deliver both babies quickly.
> >
> > 3. He said she would be induced early because the babies at this stage
are
> > already bigger than average size, he quoted 5lb 11oz  (she has 6 weeks
> > to go) and asked them to think about a date to be delivered. He is
really
> > programming in an early arrival for them and says it every time they
visit
> > him.
> >
> > How much of this is truth and how much is B.S
> >
> > This is only my 2nd twins couple but boy am I learning quickly. The
first
> > had no probs whatsoever but then they were delivered in a country
hospital.
> >
> > Many thanks
> > Diane Gardner
> >
> >
> >
> >
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