Hi Pinky: That is too cruel!!
Hah!

marilyn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping


> Hi Marilyn,
> I first discovered breastfeeding was "supposed" to inhibit sex drive at a
la
> leche league meeting when my 3rd baby was a few weeks old -and there I was
> obliviously waiting for my 6 week check up so I could really "get going
> again!"
>
> I do remember saying "help yourself Im asleep" (which did seem to offend
but
> I was too tired to give a damn on that particular occasion). but I never
> found breastfeeding to inhibit desire or lubrication etc. I have found
> myself the "odd one out" in discussions which tend to blame breastfeeding
> for lack of interest. I actually felt really sexy -I had tits!! for the
> first time, so I guess we can be victims of our conditioning whether it is
> the madonna whore effect which some mums explain means they dont feel that
> they can equate being a mother with being spontaneous, or who the breasts
> "belong" to  - me actually!
>
>
> I did find the birth experience made a difference to how I felt -
especially
> as I mentioned, how many rubber gloved fingers had been in my vagina. And,
> like Barb mentioned - a bit of household help could be a turn on - I read
> somewhere the words of a psycoanalyst who said "show me an impeccable
> housewife and I will show you a woman with severe sexual hangups ." I
often
> used this to "justify" my postponement of household duties asking my
husband
> "well, do you want a WIFE (Washing Ironing F'ing Etc) or lover? Then
whilst
> nursing in a postnatal ward in NZ one day, the charge nurse and I returned
> from lunch to a student midwife saying "XXXX has upset your ladies". It
> turned out that XXX had tidied up the caesarean ladies -I used to leave
> their slippers etc in easy reach -and she had them all sitting up neat and
> tidy when they wanted to rest and they were collectively crying. The
Charge
> nurse grinned and quoted the famous psychoanalist saying "well you know
what
> they say...." the next weekend as I came on duty I was greeted by the
charge
> nurse in stitches -Apparently XXXs husband had been picked during the
week -
> for flashing outside the Girls High school !!
>
> Pinky
>
>
>
> Pinky
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
>
>
> > You know Belinda, I think that was my parents' approach to me sleeping
> with
> > them. I have a fond memory of their bed being a welcoming place up until
I
> > was about 2 or 3 yrs then I have a memory of being cramped, hot, and
itchy
> > when in there...I soon preferred my own bed though would go in for
> > reassurance. My dad had a similar ploy for avoiding housework: he would
do
> > it but happily get fired by my mum for not doing it to her expectations.
> > Umm!
> >
> > Re sex: I never felt it was a chore always something I really wanted
too.
> > Any time it was "expected" it was a definite turn off and a turn down. I
> > always found an active sex life to actually be an energizer for me and
was
> > definetly prepared to sacrifice the housewifely jobs(but not the
mothering
> > joys) to play matahari. Granted this can be a bone of contention so to
> > speak. I can accept being the odd woman out here: I am not overly fond
of
> > chocolate and never, never suffer from being too cold in air
conditioning
> or
> > any situations that don't involve a windchill factor. I know lactation
is
> > theoretically supposed to decrease sex drive and lubrication not so for
me
> > though it did inhibit ovulation until the absolute last breastfeed for
all
> 3
> > girls. Even one feed a day kept fertility away.  But not the sex drive.
Oh
> > well!
> >
> > marilyn
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Belinda Maier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 6:13 PM
> > Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
> >
> >
> > > When i got desperate with my second child who as about five and always
> in
> > > our small bed as well as his new brother I tried many things. What
> worked
> > > best was always welcoming him into our bed yet making him very
> > uncomfortable
> > > so his own bed was more attractive ie squishing him towards the edge
of
> > the
> > > bed, being restless, dragging the pillow or blankets slightly off him
> etc.
> > > He soon chose to have a cuddle then get back into his own comfy bed.
> > > The partner and sex thing, I think parenting does sap a lot of energy
> for
> > > sex but it doesnt have to be a bad thing it is just a stage of your
> life.
> > > Most epople I know say when the kids get older you start to regain
> energy
> > > for you sex life. It seems women are expected to be too much; mothers,
> > > drivers, cleaners, workers and also lovers! Partners/men should be
> > > apprecieated but it is like my kids, they dont just get rewarded for
> being
> > > reasonable good poeple, that is an everyday expectation neither do we
> > focus
> > > on 'bad' behaviour, they are appreciated and loved and reminded tof
the
> > > qualities in them that we love. I get a bit frustrated when men are
> > revered
> > > for being so great when they are really doing no more than the average
> > woman
> > > is doing.
> > > Belinda
> > >
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