Another good resource would be Wintergreen's Pink Kit
Andrea Q
On 24/06/2005, at 8:33 AM, Denise Hynd wrote:
Dear Bernie
I suggest you do a bit of reading about how women can work with their
babies and bodies and compared that with what happened?
Start with Andrea's articles and books on active birthing
(www.birthinternational.com.au) .
Then you also need to look at what can and does happen with a
caesarian section
Try the Birthrites (www.birthrites.org.au) sites to begin and then you
may be at least be trying to make an informed decision about what you
want for yourself and your baby.
If you decide you want to work for a VBAC then you need to find some
one who has expereince in helping women acheive that!!
Denise Hynd
"Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for
the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom,
if by anyone, our bodies will be handled."
- Linda Hes
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Murphy"
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] broken collar bone & subsequent birth
Seems to me that bed dystocia could have played apart in this, along
with
the forced pushing. Being on the bed in the classic obstetric
position,
sitting on the coccyx does not allow the baby to come out easily.
You would
be better off on your hands and knees and not forcing the pushing.
There is
lots of info around about this, but it is late at night and I'm
tired, so
maybe one of the other midwives could point you in the right
direction.
Epidurals make this situation worse, so don't agree to one. Cheers,
MM
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel &
Berni
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 9:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] broken collar bone & subsequent birth
Sorry - I did leave a bit out didn't I. Here's more:
Max (1st born) was 9lb 7oz and approx. 2 weeks early so they believe
this
could be another 'Big' baby. It runs in my husbands family - his
mother had
no smaller than 10lb and her last & biggest was nearly 12 pounds!!
But I believe Max's labour was 'rushed' I had only been pushing for 30
minutes when my doctor (GP) -we don't have a GYNO in Swan Hill)
suggested a
caesar or suction. But I remember my midwife saying "no Kathy you
might like
to push for another 30 minutes". Well I thought I was going to die -
as you
do and I decided to proceed with suction. Looking back now I know I
probably
should have pushed a bit longer? I feel if I had of pushed a bit
longer he
would have come at his own pace and maybe not have broken his collar
bone?
So this is why I feel a caesarean would be a bit unnecessary?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Fraser"
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] broken collar bone & subsequent birth
Do you know what she means? Was it one of those ugly OB dystocia
moves?
I'm not sure what to offer with only that info. More please!
:D
J
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