RE: [ozmidwifery] Just a thought

[Lieve Huybrechts]

Title: Bericht

Hoi Sue,   You are right, but I can understand very much what Michel Odent means. Why would you put energy in people who don't want to listen? You better can work with people that are already open for the message you have and empower them. I asked in my last contact with Robby Davis-Floyd how we could convince gyns and the medical world that we know what we are doing and that mothers are not in danger in the hands of midwives. She answered: "tell your storys, go eat with them and bring them in contact with your work. " Only speaking at a conference will not make changes, because most things Michel speaks of are so unknown for the obs and gyns that it seems to be chinese. I don't believe anymore that most obs are open for evidence based (only when it confirms their fears), why do women still give birth on her back with legs in stirrups? Why is it so difficult to have good breastfeeding practic? Why is there so many practices that we know for years that they are harming to mother and child? I can understand that he doesn't want to be anymore in environments that are mostly hostile, you get so tired of it. They don't see us as 'rare creatures', but 'odd creatures' :-)   Lieve     Lieve Huybrechts vroedvrouw 0477/740853 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Susan Cudlipp Verzonden: vrijdag 9 september 2005 10:30 Aan: midwifery list Onderwerp: [ozmidwifery] Just a thought Following the post from Lynne Staff, and others who talk of supportive (might even say sensible) obstetricians who do practice woman friendly care. Wouldn't it be good if some of these rare creatures came out and spoke to their less supportive colleagues about their methods, beliefs and results. I often wonder why Michel Odent does not speak to them more - he preaches to the converted talking to midwives.  Although I remember my colleague asking him this at the Future Birth conference, he answered in that gorgeous accent "Ah well, you know, obstetricians, zey are not ma favourite people" Wouldn't it be great if our obs, who clearly do not know about good birthing practices, listened to those who do, and who can back it up with facts and figures.  God knows they don't listen to midwives - maybe one of their own would have more effect?   Just wishing.... Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/93 - Release Date: 8/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/93 - Release Date: 8/09/2005