RE: [ozmidwifery] Friend with breach baby...told CS only options.

Fri, 09 Sep 2005 04:56:37 -0700

What I meant was: Is delivering a breech that complicated that it can be called “art”?

 

From: Vedrana Valčić
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:48 PM
To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au'
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Friend with breach baby...told CS only options.

 

I’ve had one question on my mind for quite some time - why is it said so often that delivering a breech is becoming a lost art? Is delivering a breech that complicated?

 

Vedrana

 

From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:06 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Friend with breach baby...told CS only options.

 

I completely agree, Brenda. And I think anger is reasonable response to women being refused the right to birth their baby vaginally. Maybe if more women got angry and said no, it would stop happening. But sObs just keep pushing the limits and no one stands up to them so now they're starting to section automatically for posterior babies. Then what? Next time that woman wants to give birth, if she goes to that surgeon, or even a different one, she'll be damaged goods and have to have more surgery or be induced because she can't "go over." I can't tell you how many women have asked me for help this week alone. It's truly shocking how many women (and babies!) are being denied the basic human right of vaginal birth. And it's truly shocking how little consumers really seem to comprehend of how the system works and actually believe their Obs when they tell them total crap.

OK I'm done too. For the moment!

: )

J

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:39 PM

Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Friend with breach baby...told CS only options.

 

Or the women could just try saying 'NO'  I don't consent to surgery, I will if needed, but not "just in case"..............

 

No consent, no surgery!

Stay home with a capable MW for as long as possible & then go to the hospital ??

 

I'm cross with the oBs (not that you can't tell !! Won't even give them a capital for their title !!!)

 

BM

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Janet Fraser

Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:49 AM

Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Friend with breach baby...told CS only options.

 

Hi Debbie,

oddly enough I too know 2 women in exactly this position atm. The dangers of choosing a surgeon for the care of a perfectly normal pregnancy are becoming clear at this point.

There's an OB at JHH that deigns to catch breech babies - Andrew Bisits (sp?) - so perhaps he's one to try. I can't imagine agreeing to major surgery, with it's attendant risks, but I also can't imagine trying to birth my baby with a bunch of cranky onlookers. Women are just plain screwed in this scenario and it drives me into a rage. I shall content myself with sharing the info on turning breech babies I seem to have been supplying on a daily basis this week.

 

One midwife’s collection of breech turning info.
http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechcl.html

Attending a breech birth.
http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechbr.html

Turning a breech.
http://gentlebirth.org/Midwife/breechtn.html

Book review on breech babies.
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/reviews/breech.asp

Ina May Gaskin on catching surprise breech babies!
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/3surprisebreeches.asp

 

Homeopathy to turn babies in utero.
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/turnbaby.asp

 

A great site on moving breech babies.
http://www.spinningbabies.com

A Natural Breech Birth - hospital
http://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBMarApr01p47.html

More than you could ever hope for from the UK midwives (I love these women!)
http://www.radmid.demon.co.uk/breech.htm

About 500 birth stories with clear descriptions.
http://www.breechbabies.com/hospital_breech.htm

 

I wonder if I know at least one of those women?

All love and strength to her.

J

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