jo
also have a wee look at the 'medical facts page' on www.safetsleep.com and follow some of the prompts we have published studies from all over the world, whcih shows there is cause for significant concern
chrs
miriam
----- Original Message ----- From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:42 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep


Hi all,

Was wondering if anyone else thinks that there's a link between the increase of plagiocephaly due to the SIDS idea of sleeping baby on back at the bottom
of the cot?

Jo

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinky McKay
Sent: Monday, 3 October 2005 9:46 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep

Hi Miriam,
I have done the tiki tour - impressed and would definitely like to mention
safetsleep as an option in my book. I do appreciate all the work you are
doing and can see some great uses for safetsleep but also have some
questions:

1) I would be really concerned that some parents would use Safetsleep as a
'restraint'. But I guess if that were the case, the same thinking would mean

that they would not have grasped whatever gentle/ respectful info I had
written in the first place so were still coming from a 'convenient baby' /
baby as object to be trained mentality. ie -I personally would hate to see such a product used to prevent a toddler from getting of of bed- I have read

in at least one book and heard from a MB unit where the treatment for
toddlers who dont stay in bed is to remove the lightbulb and lock the door -

although I highly doubt you would approve of this either.

2) I am pleased to see that the babies in the letters on your site who had
plagiocephaly also received physio -I have concerns that things like helmets

on bubs only 'cosmetically' correct the symtoms (ie flat head) not the
causes ie the underlying reasons for torticolus/ positional turns ( retained

reflexes ? neurology ? tight muscles). I know of several parents here who have had feeding difficulties with such bubs ( ie uncomfortable feeding from

one side/ refusal on one side) who have been treated either by a cranial
osteopath or a paediatric chiro and when this has been corrected, then these

bubs are content to change sides etc (ie the "problem" is fixed not just the

symptom - ie flat head).

My own youngest child is regularly treated by a chiro ( initially because of

dyslexia which improved remarkably). At the first visit it was found that he

still had some early reflexes present and the chiro commented - "he would
have had difficulty breastfeeding?" My response was that as he was my 5th
child he wouldnt have had any difficulties - whether this meant holding him upside down if necessary" of course i didnt do any such thing but certainly
would have compensated  for any difficulty by altering feeding positions
rather than seeking a cause because at the time i wasnt aware that 'the
cause' ie a neurological problem/ retained reflexes could be involved.

Incidentally, he didnt/ doesn't have a flat head - he coslept so would have been side sleeping / changing sides perfectly safely and naturally, anyway.
(perhaps reinforcing my point that while symptoms can be corrected, this
doesnt necessarily mean the child is 'fixed')

However, I do have to acknowledge that this isnt every parent's choice and
also that sadly, infant sleep is fraught with fear -Im amazed by comments to

the mother in the testimonial (on your site) by her plunket nurse re the
danger of side sleeping - poor mums.

Are you in Australia or Auckland?
I will send the handouts.
Pinky

----- Original Message ----- From: "Safetsleep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman


pinky
i hv a very keen interest to meet up with you at some stage......
.from what i have heard and read about you our philosophies are very
similar. My background being mainly nursing, parenting, counselling,
community work and   nearly 20 years facilitating positive parenting
workshops ,confidence building for women, trust building, sexuality /drug
and alcohol awareness and other educationaly empowering issues .....
29 yrs ago for my eldest son, and since then  subsequent children, i
happen to have designed a special sleepwrap which allows all natural
movement depending on the age and stage of the baby, except those
movements which could cause harm eg creeping and postional asphyxia,
standing, climbing , falling, rolling off beds,helping to prevent and
correct positional plagiocephaly (flat/deformed heads) and seems to provde

a sence of security with minimal restriction ( far less even than total
swaddling)...mothers report babies sleeping better/longer/more
peacefullyand for them a huge feeling of peace of mind
13 years ago initial trials spanned 6 months, involved over 300 babies,
600 parents and 15 clinicians from various fields within the medical
profession (no mean feat as you will all know)
since then consistent 20-25% of all first-time babies in nz are
reached...several countries including european countries have received the

product and positive parenting philosophy that accompanies it very
well.... with the enthusiasm and skill of one of my son's the product is
just starting in the uk........
.hospital clinical trials were completed 2 yrs ago under the guidance of a

Canadian cranio-facial plastic surgeon, who was/is concerned with the 20%
(!) of babies who do not respond to alternate head turning nor any of the
interventions currently advocated and who will remain with permanently
different degrees of deformed heads!....
copy of the published study on the sleepwrap is on www.safetsleep.com
under 'heading 'medical facts'
i have presented 3 medical papers at international level .....few details
on the  'About Us' page ....more info avail.,
there is also a live wee video which takes aprox 2 mins to down load
about 40% of my work over the past 13 years has really amounted to a
community service in terms of education and am exhausted but elated that
in the well over 150,000 babies who have used my sleepwrap ( auditable) we

have not had one reported 'cot death', or accident
the nzcom and individual midwives have been hugly objectively supportive
of the concept
i would love to discuss  'sleep' aspects with you sometime and sincerely
hope you can find some time to tiki-tour the website mentioned above
everything in my literature is based on national and international
stats...and published data....all evidence-based

would welcome dialogue with anyone who is interested and a educational
resource pack is avail.,

warm regards
miriam rutherford
mother/educator/designer/md



----- Original Message ----- From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman


thanks Janet - Brenda and I have "made up" and are speaking civilly to
each other re the dilemma of confused identity and schedules versus
mother support.

I am currently writing a new book on infant sleep - all sleep stories/
memories/ anecdotes - welcome.

Better clarify - I will not be advocating parent directed feeding,
controlled crying or leaving babies to cry it out.

please email me offline if you want to share
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Pinky
----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman


Hear hear!
: )
J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Abby and Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman


Hi,

Just thought I would let everyone know that there is no way Pinky would
ever
be in agreement with the Ezzo's and their teachings. In fact Pinky
spends
quite a lot of time with parents difusing the terrible belief systems
they
have, that were put in place by such people as the Ezzo's, Tizzie Hall
and
Gina Ford. Pinky's books are wonderful as a tool against such
teachings.
They encourage parents to follow their instincts, trust in themselves
and
also give great practical advice when needed.

I have met Pinky online and in real life and heard her speak........she

is
one of the best and most passionate speakers I have ever heard. Check
out
her site and read her books they are really gentle and wonderful.
http://www.pinky-mychild.com/

I wonder Brenda if you were thinking of Tizzie Hall. She is a shocker
and
her attitude is terrible towards babies and children. She makes heaps
of
money out of really bad advice. But I won't get on to the Tizzie
subject
it
makes me dizzie! lol!

Love Abby

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