I can't agree more with this thread. My first saw me labour to 10cm and then have an em LSCS. 5 hours later, in the middle of the night, I had 3 midwives in my room trying to warm Maggie. After a couple of hours they informed me that she was getting colder and they were going to bring "baby warming lights" to my room to warm her. They were horrified when I suggested they take her to the nursery. No, rooming in is better. For who? I was trapped in bed and couldn't do anything for her. I'd had no sleep for 2 nights, had been through labour and a section and was desperate for some. Having them bustling around the room was not conducive. Lights weren't going to help. It took 5 mins of determined debate before I won. And those 4 hours were the only time she didn't room in.
I still can't see why I had to fight so hard for common sense. And wonder about the mothers who don't rebel. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Cudlipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in I totally agree with you Brenda. It is part of our caring role for the time the mothers are with us to be flexible to their needs. We have a 'rooming in' policy and the babies are with mum the majority of the time, but I get annoyed when this is used as a reason NOT to take the babies when mum requests a break, or if it is evident that they need one. They go back for breast feeds, but we can change nappies and cuddle a restless bub when we are not busy, as you say, we are being paid to stay awake and any new mum usually needs to catch up on some sleep. Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in >I work some night duty in a small unit & if mothers ask me to 'mind' their >babies & take them back for feeds overnight then I do, willingly. > > I'm heavily into nurturing women, odd eh ?? > > The Mums know what they want, if they need to sleep, why would I say no ? > I am being paid to stay awake & care for women & babies, that's what we do > ! > If they want us to mind their babies we do, it might be the only > uninterrupted sleep they get for months. We don't ever 'take' the babies > away, but always respond when asked unless we are flat out. > Are we wrong to help out when requested ? > When we take the babies back for feeds, we help with the nappy changing if > needed, sit with the Mums,make them tea, provide analgesia or hotpacks & > give them something to eat after feeds. > Isn't that just a huge basic part of 'caring for women' OR 'mothering the > mother' ? Wouldn't our mothers do that for us if they were around for the > feeds in the wee small hours ? Or would our support people shut the door & > say "go for it, see you in the morning Welcome to motherhood" ! How > supportive is that ? > > Wrong again ??? > > With kind regards > Brenda Manning > www.themidwife.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "islips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] rooming in > > >> The obs dont like the idea of mucousy babies staying in the rooms with >> mums. However in most cases where the woman has had a c/s we get the >> fathers to stay the night to help out. There were other issues such as >> unwell mums etc. The women who complained were all multis and basic >> reason was that they were tierd. Last time i checked i was a midwife not >> a nanny !!!! Since we implemented the rooming in policy our primips are >> BF better and going home so much more confident. It will be a shame if it >> goes back. >> Zoe >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cheryl LHK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:29 PM >> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] rooming in >> >> >>> Just a query? What are the obst's complaints based on - the same 3 >>> mothers complaints? No doubt they were tired and wanted a bit of rest!! >>> Welcome to motherhood. >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: "islips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au >>>>To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> >>>>Subject: [ozmidwifery] rooming in >>>>Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:56:48 +0800 >>>> >>>>I wonder if someone can help me put together some stats regarding >>>>'rooming in' . I work at a large private hospital in Perth . We recently >>>>closed our night nursery and implemented a 'rooming in policy'. This has >>>>worked very well in enhancing BF , mothercrafting etc. However due to 3 >>>>mothers and 3 obs complaining it looks as though we will have to change >>>>the policy. we have a meeting on tuesday and i would like to present >>>>some current research to the medical profession regarding the benefits >>>>of rooming in. >>>>thanks >>>>zoe >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mary Murphy >>>> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 7:28 AM >>>> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] question >>>> >>>> >>>> Jenny, could you give us the reference please? Thanks, MM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> ", one study demonstrated zero oxygen, because there is no longer any >>>> utero-placental circulation. This is part of the stimulation for the >>>> baby to breathe, but the baby is receiving some circulatory volume. " >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. >>> >> >> >> -- >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: 20/11/2005 > > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
